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Title: Am i going soft?
Post by: peplow on January 02, 2011, 10:57:27 PM
Help!

I have made the decision to have 1 bat for the 2011 season! Am i going crazy? This is simply a plea for normality and the fatc i can use one at a time, and heaven forbid it breaks, my team mates all have bats i have supplied so i owuld be happy to use any of them haha!

The hardest thing will be finding it, i am thinking laver but with no reply from them for a while now and the expenses i will incur i am starting to look elsewhere to weigh up my options...

Do i go english made?
Do i buy loads and keep 1 with the rest being sold?
Do i buy it now or wait for my trip and see whats to offer there?

I know the sort of weight i am after but am undecided on the bat for me...
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: jonpinson on January 02, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
Help!

I have made the decision to have 1 bat for the 2011 season! Am i going crazy? This is simply a plea for normality and the fatc i can use one at a time, and heaven forbid it breaks, my team mates all have bats i have supplied so i owuld be happy to use any of them haha!

The hardest thing will be finding it, i am thinking laver but with no reply from them for a while now and the expenses i will incur i am starting to look elsewhere to weigh up my options...

Do i go english made?
Do i buy loads and keep 1 with the rest being sold?
Do i buy it now or wait for my trip and see whats to offer there?

I know the sort of weight i am after but am undecided on the bat for me...

If you had a back up my advice would be to get a Laver. Why not, you want one, so go for it.

But if you are to be reliant on one bat next season I'd consider getting a couple from over here, isn't going to cost you any more.
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Colesy on January 02, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Mate I've got one bat for the season for the second in a row. It's hard :(
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 02, 2011, 11:03:27 PM
Help!

I have made the decision to have 1 bat for the 2011 season! Am i going crazy? This is simply a plea for normality and the fatc i can use one at a time, and heaven forbid it breaks, my team mates all have bats i have supplied so i owuld be happy to use any of them haha!

The hardest thing will be finding it, i am thinking laver but with no reply from them for a while now and the expenses i will incur i am starting to look elsewhere to weigh up my options...

Do i go english made?
Do i buy loads and keep 1 with the rest being sold?
Do i buy it now or wait for my trip and see whats to offer there?

I know the sort of weight i am after but am undecided on the bat for me...


I've been thinking similar.  I have sold 3 bats in the last week or so.  No doubt I will buy one or two more before the season starts though!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: jimba101 on January 02, 2011, 11:07:03 PM
your not soft, probably sensible ;) reckon i may do the same. Ordered a new H4L, as long as i like it i think i may keep it as a lone bat. My hunts has been sold (i think) and reckon my kook will go well on ebay now. will save me alot of money!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 02, 2011, 11:09:08 PM
You've gone soft mate.......

Although if your dead set on just a laver I'd wait til you get out to Nz and get one measured up who knows you could have another growth spurt by then ;) also youl get to look at all the profiles and decide which you like the most..... And maybe even select the cleft for your dream bat.....



Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: SillyShilly on January 02, 2011, 11:14:26 PM
Or.......you could take a super-duper lightweight cleft over in your luggage, take it to James (and obviously impress him with your cricketing knowledge) and get him to knock you up a bat while you wait and hopefully at a cheaper price!!!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: peplow on January 02, 2011, 11:21:02 PM
hmmm shout and a half my shilly!

Will be considering anything and everything in the next month, and will hopefully come to a sensible (although i very much douby it!) decision...
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: johan95 on January 02, 2011, 11:24:03 PM
Probably sensible Mr P. Will have a little rota going on next season. Have 2 match bats of similar weight, a heavier net bat and a middling bat... :|- It is true you can only use one in the middle, so it might be worth getting something special from Laver. Maybe take a blank over that you find cheap in case you can't get your bat made up that quickly: though I am sure you will find something special in Oz.. :)
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: FattusCattus on January 02, 2011, 11:24:56 PM
Get James to make something in front of you.

A Lammington and a Tui should seal the deal for you.
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 02, 2011, 11:26:40 PM
Where can you get these super duper lightweight clefts from?
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: procricket on January 02, 2011, 11:27:25 PM
hmmm shout and a half my shilly!

Will be considering anything and everything in the next month, and will hopefully come to a sensible (although i very much douby it!) decision...

#
I seriously doubt he will do this as a reputable batmaker he makes with his own clefts and suspect that all he will do

Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: procricket on January 02, 2011, 11:28:16 PM
Where can you get these super duper lightweight clefts from?

Put any cleft in a airing cupboard leave for 6 weeks the mosture level will be down and hey presto or ask James for a extra dried cleft.
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 02, 2011, 11:39:16 PM
I'm guessing these don't last as long?
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: SillyShilly on January 02, 2011, 11:42:43 PM

Probably a conversation already covered in another thread, but this extended drying process in airing cupboard is surely going to take away more sap (which acts like glue for the whole bat) than is advised and hence the bat will almost certainly be more vulnerable and likely to break. However, i'm sure there is an art to reducing moisture once that bat has been made and getting timings correct so that the bat retains enough moisture is the tricky part.
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: peplow on January 02, 2011, 11:46:00 PM
Yeah If I was having the one bat I wouldn't want an overdried one!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: captainofcricket2011kse on January 02, 2011, 11:48:59 PM
I had two bats last year and broke them both before the end of June!! So frustrating. The temptation to buy 4 or 5 for this year so I definitely know I have enough. You want to have at least one in reserve that you use/have used because it can be really off putting trying to use someone elses bat. Likely to get out early on with a different bat.
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: yvk3103 on January 02, 2011, 11:52:40 PM
The hardest thing will be finding it, i am thinking laver but with no reply from them for a while now and the expenses i will incur i am starting to look elsewhere to weigh up my options...

James should be in today, so good idea to drop him a reminder.

My take would be to have 2 bats:
1) Buy a M&H Amplus (if you are going to be playing in Aus)
2) Whilst holidaying in Aus, either try out SCat or have James make one for you and send it over to Aus (cheaper postage and jsut in case you are not happy easier to return!)
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 02, 2011, 11:55:36 PM
Lots of chat about these amplus but haven't seem any pics as yet ??? Am I the only one?
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Colesy on January 02, 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 02, 2011, 11:57:20 PM
So where are they then??? I can cast my eye over them then for my amusement :)
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 02, 2011, 11:58:58 PM
James should be in today, so good idea to drop him a reminder.

My take would be to have 2 bats:
1) Buy a M&H Amplus (if you are going to be playing)

Must admit those Amplus's look amazing.....

If I was going to Oz I think I'd definitely be paying mr millichamp a visit for a SCAT
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 03, 2011, 12:00:12 AM
Lots of chat about these amplus but haven't seem any pics as yet ??? Am I the only one?

They're on the m&h website mate very similar to the gt IMO only bigger
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:02:33 AM
are they only available in 1 grade @£350?
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
Just looks like a chunkier version of the harlequin (?) to me
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Colesy on January 03, 2011, 12:02:55 AM
A bigger, concaved Harlequin
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:03:57 AM
Looks like it as they are made from oversized clefts which will demand a higher price tag...£304 in globe in Bristol apparently
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Tom on January 03, 2011, 12:04:38 AM
I've seen one in the flesh, interesting shape but not one I like or could see many using.

Then again many said that about another certain design of bat!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: yvk3103 on January 03, 2011, 12:05:30 AM
Just looks like a chunkier version of the harlequin (?) to me

Bang-on Tom. High to mid middle but according to Rod, will hit the ball well even low down due to the amount of wood on the bat. Must appreciate the size and pick-up on the Amplus and the Distinction
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
Yeh those oars will never catch on Tom ;) might have a look tomorrow if I get time at them, seem distinctions and wouldn't mind trying one....think amplus will be too high a middle for Bristol pitches
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: jonpinson on January 03, 2011, 12:07:40 AM
Come on chaps, apparantly this new Amplus is used by many pros. Combine that with a high price tag and it simply has to be the next big thing on everyones want list!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:08:24 AM
i will have to put my prices up for my monsters there from my own cut oversized clefts ...
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:09:37 AM
Yeh if there are only so many oversized clefts going gotta charge a premium for them!!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 03, 2011, 12:10:03 AM
The harlequins are pretty concaved as it is.... Says the amplus only use select light weight clefts... They start off in heavier weights tho 2.10 as opposed to 2.7
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:12:08 AM
thats the biggest problem ,more wood = extra weight ,with the high middle and counter balance, don't  see them getting many under 2.12
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:12:58 AM
A problem I'm constantly battling....
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Colesy on January 03, 2011, 12:13:44 AM
*tumbleweed*
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: Canners on January 03, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
I agree.... I've seen your 4lb monster remember :)
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: yvk3103 on January 03, 2011, 12:15:04 AM
thats the biggest problem ,more wood = extra weight

Agreed. But achieving the best balance and lightest possible pick-up with or without a counterbalance is the key. LIke I said the bats have a excellent pick-up
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: yvk3103 on January 03, 2011, 12:16:39 AM
thats the biggest problem ,more wood = extra weight ,with the high middle and counter balance, don't  see them getting many under 2.12

Start at a dead weight of 2.9 apparently but mostly 2.10 onwards
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: FattusCattus on January 03, 2011, 12:16:50 AM
I agree.... I've seen your 4lb monster remember :)

What you two do in your own time is best left to yourselves!
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:17:53 AM
oops ! that came out wrong! :(
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:18:56 AM
i  did show it  around  the table! :-[
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: yvk3103 on January 03, 2011, 12:21:11 AM
Okay. Back to the topic....

Sam, you are not going soft, just becoming wiser with your finances :)

Hope you can restrict yourself to jsut 1 bat (worst case 2 bats)
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 03, 2011, 12:22:04 AM
Start at a dead weight of 2.9 apparently but mostly 2.10 onwards

they have to  be finishing them at around 2.6/2.7 before stringing,grip and stickers ,good luck
Title: Re: Am i going soft?
Post by: FattusCattus on January 03, 2011, 12:27:45 AM
I agree, and also the bigger the profile, the more that has to be taken away from somewhere else. Then you end up with a huge shape but with very little wood behind it (a la L&W or Fusions) which makes for a very unforgiving profile.

I've always desired a huge bat, and have used things like Jokers, but the I've found many to simply be just too heavy. i really can't use anything bigger than a 2.10, and I find that a bloody good batmaker can make you something reasonably chunky without too much concaving for that weight.