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Title: The Stance
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 06, 2011, 05:42:12 PM
Hi all,

I have been thinking about my technique virtually all winter now. I'm now 6'2, RH batsman and use a SH bat, however now whenever I tap my bat behind my right foot when facing up it is almost as if my back is arched instead of straight, like you seen from every pro on TV.

I know this is a result from growth, and could be due to the fact that I never bendmy knees in stance. I would like to hear all of your views on stances, and whether bending your knees in the stance set up is beneficial or whether there is anything I could do to improve it currently.

Thanks
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Colesy on January 06, 2011, 05:43:26 PM
I am the same as you mate 6'2, RH using SH. I stand with my bat between my feet and they're slightly wider than shoulder width. Works for me.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: captainofcricket2011kse on January 06, 2011, 05:45:24 PM
I used to be like this, although im slightly shorter, but my coach got me to just stand up as the bowler was running in and not to worry about tapping the ground. It also improves your backlift because you are already halfway up so you have more timeto select your shots if you have a high backlift.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Riddy on January 06, 2011, 05:47:02 PM
im an inch taller than you boys, but also RH using a SH, i have my bat behind my left foot, with knees bent and in quite a low position when the ball is released...   but everyone is different i guess :)
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Colesy on January 06, 2011, 05:47:52 PM
I think as long as your eyes are over off-stump then you're ok, and you bat comes through straight
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 06, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
I am the same as you mate 6'2, RH using SH. I stand with my bat between my feet and they're slightly wider than shoulder width. Works for me.
Do you bat with bent knees Colesy? Or upright?
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: tim2000s on January 06, 2011, 05:50:32 PM
Shouldn't you be on the balls of your feet ready to dance down (or back up) the wicket and smash the bowler away? ;)
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Colesy on January 06, 2011, 05:51:54 PM
You judge....

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs094.ash2/38056_418112512559_768047559_4510596_2050069_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 06, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
I would say yes, if only a little.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: tommy2tink on January 06, 2011, 06:21:55 PM
Try changing where you tap your bat, if at all. Between your legs lets you stand taller while waiting.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Buzz on January 06, 2011, 07:53:13 PM
it doesn't matter where or if you tap the bat - what matters is where you bend your back - it is important to bend from the hips not hunch your back - so you look like a bit a bit more upright version of this slightly exagerated position (with your eyes level):

(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/battingposition.jpg)

the above pic is before the backlift - but the batsman is about 6ft2

If you are not sure how it should feel, stand up tall, tense your lower stomach muscles and bend forward from your hips. Bending/flexing your knees should make it more comfortable and allow you to move your feet better too.

not sure i have explained what I mean particularly well. if you aren't sure, give me a shout!
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: captainofcricket2011kse on January 06, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
I would love to bat on that pitch.....
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Buzz on January 06, 2011, 08:04:33 PM
I would love to bat on that pitch.....
That pitch is a meadow... but a very picturesque ground - West Horsley
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Kulli on January 07, 2011, 10:58:14 AM
Pretty sure I dend from the back rather than the hips, causes my eyes not to be in line.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: captainofcricket2011kse on January 07, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
I was joking although it does look a lot better than some of the ones we get around Camnbridge
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: tim2000s on January 07, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Related to another thread, I find that with the larger bat (ie LH+LB) my stance is a helluva lot better than with a SH.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: pacman75cricket on January 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
it doesn't matter where or if you tap the bat - what matters is where you bend your back - it is important to bend from the hips not hunch your back - so you look like a bit a bit more upright version of this slightly exagerated position (with your eyes level):

([url]http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/battingposition.jpg[/url])

Take it this is yourself Buzz

looks like Kook Ice Gear & possibly a SAF

the above pic is before the backlift - but the batsman is about 6ft2

If you are not sure how it should feel, stand up tall, tense your lower stomach muscles and bend forward from your hips. Bending/flexing your knees should make it more comfortable and allow you to move your feet better too.

not sure i have explained what I mean particularly well. if you aren't sure, give me a shout!
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 07, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
I know what you mean Buzz, I think the key is to be on the balls of your feet; whilst havng a slight bend in the knees to stop a hunch effect. Thanks to allwho contributed.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: SillyShilly on January 07, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
Listen to Buzz and you'll go far.......he coached Alastair Cook and i've heard he might be good one day.
Seriously though, Buzz knows his onions and i've been adding his tips into my little coaching diary! Keep em coming!
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Buzz on January 07, 2011, 10:24:46 PM
Ali Cook is a thoroughly good bloke - not sure about his batting, I still think he has the same weakness outside the off-stump from around the wicket he had when he was 12...! Not that I am disappointed that none of the Aussies bothered to test it out!

Neither of the bats in that pic are a SAF, the pic was taken about 2 years ago and the batsman in question stands slightly more upright at the crease now!
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: pacman75cricket on January 07, 2011, 10:33:03 PM
Just thought it might be just received some ice pads & gloves first impression is very good see why you like them
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Colesy on January 08, 2011, 01:41:19 PM
Buzz how does my stance look, technically, in your opinion?
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Apple on January 08, 2011, 01:44:43 PM
My stance has been totally changed by the coaches at middlsex this winter, being 15 and looking to try and get some 2 day cricket in next year, my technique has to be stronger than ever, because of this I now stand on middle, with my right eye in line with offstump, this means the best ball the bowler bowls, around forth stump, I can play it straight. I used to be more on my heals, and stand very tall, this meant I would open the face to the balls, and bring point right round to the keeper into play.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Buzz on January 08, 2011, 03:49:04 PM
Buzz how does my stance look, technically, in your opinion?
Colsey - I think it looks fine - the important thing is that you are comfortable and as Apple says above, your eyes are level and right eye over off stump, which yours is.
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Colesy on January 08, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
Thanks, just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong lol
Title: Re: The Stance
Post by: Canners on January 08, 2011, 04:27:56 PM
One of the things I've learnt from this forum is.... Listen to buzz he knows what he's talking about and some