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Title: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 12, 2011, 08:53:55 AM
... And that's why you don't buy GM! Quality from Watson, pretty sure the handle snapped straight across! Ouch!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: iand123 on January 12, 2011, 09:00:59 AM
I saw them changing bats but didnt see what happened. Fits in perfectly with the discussions in the other threads about brand exposure!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: iand123 on January 12, 2011, 09:11:06 AM
Chin up swanny!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 12, 2011, 09:42:27 AM
Very good come back from Swanny considering he went for 26 off his first.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: iand123 on January 12, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
Watson really did go after him didnt he, after the first 3 went for 6 i thought we might have seen another 6 6's in an over
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: iand123 on January 12, 2011, 10:12:43 AM
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50759000/jpg/_50759236_hi010995949.jpg)

Good shot from the BBC sport site of Watsons handle breaking
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: will5210 on January 12, 2011, 10:20:50 AM
([url]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50759000/jpg/_50759236_hi010995949.jpg[/url])

Good shot from the BBC sport site of Watsons handle breaking


GM's latest flexi-handle technology working well there. What will they think of next!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: peplow on January 12, 2011, 10:23:59 AM
Ouch could be an expensive duck!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 12, 2011, 11:03:26 AM
Morgan doesn't seem to suit slaz for some reason
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Simmy on January 12, 2011, 11:53:43 AM
booom 1 of last ball cant wait to see highlights!

woakes one us that game
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: peplow on January 12, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
get in lads, cracking match!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 12, 2011, 11:54:30 AM
Superb game of T20 cricket, many twists and turns in the match.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 12, 2011, 11:56:49 AM
Good finish.  Was actually quite exciting, given that it was only a T20.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 12, 2011, 11:57:31 AM
Woakes looked good, knew he had it in him! Looked classy with the bat at times, played a couple of good drive through the off and an outstanding pull off Tait at 92mph!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: iand123 on January 12, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
Early fielding errors really cost the Aussies dear, great example of t20 cricket. Just nice for a game against the Aussies to go the distance ;)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 12, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
Early fielding errors really cost the Aussies dear, great example of t20 cricket. Just nice for a game against the Aussies to go the distance ;)
Poor bowling as well! It would have cost them more dear if Tait was actually called for the over-stepping!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: THERUBIN on January 12, 2011, 12:15:44 PM
Why does Nannes not play?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: eaowbear on January 12, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Nice to see another Warwickshire Bear roaring for England!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 01:04:06 PM
Have managed to dodge the score all day until now! Good win for us, but got it recorded at home so will give me something to watch later

Where the Aussies that awful?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Buzz on January 12, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
Please can someone explain why Matt Prior isn't playing.

I appreciate the magnificent Surrey Keeper Steven Davis is talented, but seriously no one in their right mind would say that, on Current Form, Prior isn't the best English keeper batsman in all forms of the game.

(Edit to add English as this isn't meant to be an international debate)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
Totally agree with you Buzz, there isn't a keeper around at the moment than can match him, by all means give Davies the T20 spot but one dayers surely have to go to Prior
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Alvaro on January 12, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
I'd leave it  to the selectors at the mo, they have some credit in the bank for a change
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Alvaro on January 12, 2011, 01:18:59 PM
Why does Nannes not play?
who cares? let them pick skippy the bush kangaroo...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: uknsaunders on January 12, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
Australia IPL Cost £6.04m
England IPL Cost £1.25m

Hmmm....
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Alvaro on January 12, 2011, 01:36:52 PM
I read somewhere that the IPL purchases could have something to do with the nationalities of the coaches of the IPL teams. As they're predominantly Saffer/Aussie they bought players they know. As there are no decent English coaches who would be trusted with a billionnaire's toy, then English also rans won't be picked up in the same numbers.

Oh, and there's the availability thing, which played a role in Chris Gayle (Mr 2020) not getting a gig. Chris Blooby Gayle! :)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 12, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Please can someone explain why Matt Prior isn't playing.

I appreciate the magnificent Surrey Keeper Steven Davis is talented, but seriously no one in their right mind would say that, on Current Form, Prior isn't the best English keeper batsman in all forms of the game.

(Edit to add English as this isn't meant to be an international debate)

Davies is young and pushing for a place. why not give him the T20 for a bit of experience, he's a good enough keeper and batsmen to play for england and it means prior has some competition which can only be a good thing.
Personally i dont really rate prior as a batsmen and so would pick davies over him in T20 and ODI anyway, Davies is much more likely to play a big long innings in an ODI than prior imo. Also if your keeper is a proper batsman who can open in ODI then that creates a space down the order to slot in an allrounder.
Don't know if that nakes much sense, tbh i wish davies and tremlett werent picked for england as now surrey will hardly see them next year :(
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Riddy on January 12, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
utter rubbish... prior cant play a long innings? thats just untrue.

Prior has proved himself to be a quality batsman, and definitely should be opening the batting for us in the limited form of the game
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 12, 2011, 01:58:53 PM
utter rubbish... prior cant play a long innings? thats just untrue.

Prior has proved himself to be a quality batsman, and definitely should be opening the batting for us in the limited form of the game
As ive said, merely my opinion. I think Davies is much more likely to play a big innings from the top of the order in ODI and set up a big total. I think priors too hit and miss tbh. Never said that prior can't play a long innings, i just think davies would do it more often.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Buzz on January 12, 2011, 02:02:15 PM
I sort of agree with both of you!!

Bell and Strauss can open the innings and Prior - who I think is good enough to play just as a batsman - can bat down the order.
Bell - Strauss - KP - Colly - Morgan - Prior - is a decent batting line up with Yardy, Bresnen, Swann, Broad, Anderson making up the numbers to play in the World Cup
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: will5210 on January 12, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
I sort of agree with both of you!!

Bell and Strauss can open the innings and Prior - who I think is good enough to play just as a batsman - can bat down the order.
Bell - Strauss - KP - Colly - Morgan - Prior - is a decent batting line up with Yardy, Bresnen, Swann, Broad, Anderson making up the numbers to play in the World Cup

I don't see Prior down the order in ODI's to be honest. I think he's a little too orthodox & isn't a natural six hitter at the death.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Buzz on January 12, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
In his defence I would point you to this knock http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausdomestic-2010/engine/current/match/461034.html

and he could always bat at 4 and push colly, and morgan down a slot too. I seriously rate Davis but I just don't think he is good enough yet - and I think he will be. Prior on the other hand is playing better than ever at the moment and at the world cup I believe woudl be a better bet, if bedwetter isn't the option - which he could be at the top of the order.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 12, 2011, 02:14:18 PM
For the world cup i would agree with you IF Davies doesn't quite perform beforehand. Otherwise id take out prior, open with davies and put bell to 3 shunting the others down a spot.
My ODI team in a year or twos time assuming certain players continue to develop would be: Davies-Strauss-Bell-KP-Morgan-Prior/Collingwood-Bresnan-Rashid-Broad-Anderson-Tremlett/Finn/Shazad
I can see prior down the order in ODI's, just not up the order. I think Davies is good enough to be given a gig in the T20 and a chance in ODI, if he doesnt come good just yet prior can always come back in for the world cup.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Riddy on January 12, 2011, 02:15:27 PM
id have the order like this...     
bell
strauss
KP
Prior
Morgan
Colly
then the rest etc
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: will5210 on January 12, 2011, 02:17:52 PM
For the world cup i would agree with you IF Davies doesn't quite perform beforehand. Otherwise id take out prior, open with davies and put bell to 3 shunting the others down a spot.
My ODI team in a year or twos time assuming certain players continue to develop would be: Davies-Strauss-Bell-KP-Morgan-Prior/Collingwood-Bresnan-Rashid-Broad-Anderson-Tremlett/Finn/Shazad
I can see prior down the order in ODI's, just not up the order. I think Davies is good enough to be given a gig in the T20 and a chance in ODI, if he doesnt come good just yet prior can always come back in for the world cup.

No Swann?!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 12, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
No Swann?!

I knew id forgotten someone!  :-[
switch swann for bresnan then or the number 11 options
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: will5210 on January 12, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
I think this discussion proves how strong the players in or around the squad are at the moment.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 12, 2011, 02:23:28 PM
I think this discussion proves how strong the players in or around the squad are at the moment.

agreed, as much as it hurts to being an aussie fan!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Colesy on January 12, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/126900/126990.jpg)

Awesome
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
good to see Mr Millichamp is looking after his pros ;)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Colesy on January 12, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
It's a GM blade mate.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
I know mate, but Watson used to get his bats from Julian, was assuming he still did...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Colesy on January 12, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
Nah apparently all GM sponsored players use GM made bats
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Bopara was/is using Warsop, as was Ten Doc. That was from good sources mate, haha god knows if they were talking tosh!

top photo though, I agree
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Colesy on January 12, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
International players - sorry
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 12, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
Well thanks for clearing that up then Colesy!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Colesy on January 12, 2011, 04:26:22 PM
Lol I'm 98% sure that's right. Someone else may be able to fully clarify.

I know Watson has been to GM to discuss bat shapes and handles etc...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: espocrespo on January 12, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
I think I would have picked prior for this game Purely as a batsmen, Luke wright seems just neither here nor there.

And prior hit 50 for vics ;)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: johan95 on January 12, 2011, 05:11:20 PM
Watched the end of it at Lords haha, top game it seemed. Loving GM's revolutionary flexi-handle though. What next? No handle..?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 08:41:11 AM
So, the second T20 starts between England and Australia.

Both teams unchanged, has rained a lot, Aus win the toss and bat first.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 08:42:40 AM
lol bresnan running round like a headless chicken :D
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 08:49:59 AM
watson, bloody hell that was massive!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 08:55:01 AM
Good captaincy from collingwood to keep Woakes on and he's got his reward with the key wicket of Watson
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 08:58:10 AM
agreed good captaincy there, how come england open the bowling with a guy slower than watson?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 09:01:48 AM
Think they're just giving him some experience at International level. He's only 21 or so, so his pace will hopefully develop.

Normally it would be broad/anderson/tremlett etc, but due to other circumstances they cant play.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: pup12 on January 14, 2011, 09:03:27 AM
I know Broad is injured, Anderson is resting....But why isn't Tremlett playing?!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 09:04:07 AM
fair enough, i just thought they must have someone quicker than him lol
paine is doing very well :)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 09:07:48 AM
Spoke too soon :)


I guess Tremlett is getting a rest. I presume he will start in the odi's?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 14, 2011, 09:08:03 AM
Am sure Tremlett will play in the ODIs.  They will be rotating their bowlers throughout the series.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 09:22:17 AM
great decision from the ump.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 09:34:50 AM
 >:( dont quite see how you can think of giving it if it hits the batsmen above the knee roll while hes on tiptoe and 6 foot 2 or something
god i hate david hussey, swann bowled well
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 14, 2011, 10:43:50 AM
Start Mitch...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 10:46:33 AM
whats with the umpires and no-balls recently? in the PM XI game there were a few given that werent and now in a proper game too!
looks like aus are bowling a little more sensibly at bell now though he's still looking class
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: tim2000s on January 14, 2011, 10:51:28 AM
No ball for more than one over shoulder height is perfectly legit...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
not talking about that, no problems with that.  the front foot no ball is what im on about
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 14, 2011, 10:56:55 AM
not talking about that, no problems with that.  the front foot no ball is what im on about
They missed a load in the first match where they weren't given but were overstepping. Works both ways mate. Shaun Tait almost oversteps every time he bowls, and does go over the line on a fair few occasions. One of the fours Morgan hit off him was a massive overstep, not given. Wright's wicket was very close as well.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 11:03:55 AM
Well in a way that kinda helps my point. Why are the umpires missing so many and giving some that arent. Personally i didnt see or hear the commentators comment on any overstepping in the first T20 so there cant have been much tbh.
Almost overstepping and being very close isnt overstepping so thats irrelevant really.
Its just a bit odd, i dont think ive ever really seen any umpires get a fair few no ball decisions wrong before, whether its not giving them or giving them.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
England need a few 6's. 5 sixes for the aussies whereas England haven't hit one yet this innings.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Simmy on January 14, 2011, 11:31:28 AM
we lose :D
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: alexrickyponting on January 14, 2011, 11:33:01 AM
SIMMY! im behind,eng are 89-4 here
good result tho :)
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
It's not over... just yet...
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Simmy on January 14, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
needed a 6 of last ball got 1 gutted :(
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 11:47:04 AM
they had to run 2 on the penultimate ball so woakes had the strike, but bresnan was puffing.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Buzz on January 14, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
this is going to sound harsh but it was poor batting from Bres there - all six balls of the brett lee over were on leg stump on a length - Woakes spotted that and smashed it into the crowd - Bres could have stepped across and smashed it over Cow... ok very harsh, but still

grrr I hate it when we lose.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Jeet on January 14, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
Woakes should bat at 6, Wright is crap
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Simmy on January 14, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
what this guy said :D ^^^^
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Buzz on January 14, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
Actually Samit Patel should bat at 6 - but he is too fat. Wright wont play much once Broad is back.
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: mattw on January 14, 2011, 11:55:52 AM
possibly when kieswetter is back, he'll open with bell/davies and then bell at 4 with collingwood moving to 6?
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Tumo on January 14, 2011, 11:58:27 AM
Actually Samit Patel should bat at 6 - but he is too fat. Wright wont play much once Broad is back.
Agreed. Quality player, just a bit lazy when it comes to getting fit!
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: Simmy on January 14, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
come on buzz dont get sizest lol
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: johnnyw on January 14, 2011, 12:03:43 PM
Has anyone noticed that White realises how bad a bowler Steve Smith is and has not given him a bowl in either game....
Title: Re: Eng-Aus T20
Post by: will5210 on January 14, 2011, 12:15:18 PM
Has anyone noticed that White realises how bad a bowler Steve Smith is and has not given him a bowl in either game....

That alone is probably enough to make him the best Aus captain of the past 5 years.