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Title: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 28, 2011, 11:15:42 AM
I am bored stiff at work. Thought this might entertain me for a while!

1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Vaughan
4. Thorpe
5. KP
6. Freddie
7. Stewart
8. Hoggard/Jones
9. Swanny
10. Anderson
11. Harmison

Actually quite a tough one to call when you think about it. Not given a massive amount of thought to this, just wondered what everyone else thinks!
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: jimba101 on January 28, 2011, 11:23:28 AM
I am bored stiff at work. Thought this might entertain me for a while!

1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Vaughn
4. Thorpe
5. KP
6. Freddie
7. Stewart
8. Hoggard/Jones
9. Swanny
10. Anderson
11. Harmison

Actually quite a tough one to call when you think about it. Not given a massive amount of thought to this, just wondered what everyone else thinks!

Gough in for hoggy/jones. about all i'd change
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 28, 2011, 11:26:03 AM
Yeah I did forget about Gough until after I had posted

Would have Tresco over Atherton any day, not only becasue I can't stand Athers commentating and writing, but because Tres needs to be given credit. One of the most gifted batsmen we have seen, whilst incorporating the most awful footwork, or lack of...
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Kulli on January 28, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
I think you could argue a fairly strong case for Trott at number 3.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 28, 2011, 11:43:04 AM
I think you could argue a fairly strong case for Trott at number 3.

I think we would have to see how he fairs against India and the Saffers first. Don't get me wrong, massive fan of Trott and currently my favourite England player, but he failed in SA and although he has had a quality Ashes, and a good start to his test career (shame it's late on) he needs to come on against these 2 teams, if you see what I mean
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Buzz on January 28, 2011, 12:04:17 PM
I don't think I would pick Harmison as he has frustrated more than he has performed... unless he is playing for Durham.

My team would be:

Strauss
Trescothic
Vaughan
Pieterson
Thorpe
Flintoff
Prior
Swann
Jones
Anderson/gough? I am going for Anderson
Caddick (I wanted an old school tall bowler!)
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Alvaro on January 28, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
1.Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Trott
4. Thorpe
5. Pietersen
6. Flintoff
7. Prior
8. Swann
9. Anderson
10. Caddick
11. Jones

This is an ODI and Test team
Collingwood & Gough in squad as 'good blokes'
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: ianbuchanan on January 28, 2011, 12:26:04 PM
1.Trescothick
2.Strauss
3.Vaughan
4.Pietersen
5.Bell
6.Flintoff
7.Stewart
8.Swann
9.Gough
10.Jones
11.Harmison
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Kulli on January 28, 2011, 12:29:33 PM
Would people really want Flintoff at 6 and Stewart or Prior at 7?
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 28, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
I think just having Freddie on the field made a massive difference. I admit he did underachieve and should have been so much better, but when he was on form, there was nobody that could touch him
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Kulli on January 28, 2011, 12:46:27 PM
Think it's hard to argue with having him in the side, but I'd probably have him at 7 rather than 6. Also don't think I'd have Alex Stewart of 2000-2003 in my side, certainly not as keeper, Priors record will be much better I'd imagine.

Having not given it much thought I'd have

Trescothick
Strauss
Vaughan
Thorpe
Pieterson
Prior
Flintoff
Jones
Swann
Anderson
Hoggard
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: pup12 on January 28, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
Hoggard?! i dont think he was great, good...but not great!

Strauss
Tresco
Trott
Vaughan
KP
Collingwood (alot will disagree)
Flintoff
Prior
Swann
Anderson
Caddick.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Kulli on January 28, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
I don't think England have had 4 'great' fast bowlers over the last 10 years. Caddick certainly wasn't a great.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: roco on January 28, 2011, 12:59:51 PM
1. Tresco
2. Strauss
3. Vaughn
4.kp
5.Thorpe
6.colly
7.Freddie
8.foster
9.swann
10.gough
11.Anderson
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: justnotcricket86 on January 28, 2011, 01:19:33 PM
Foster is a great shout, best keeper this country has had since Jack Russell, and given that Swanny bat's as well, we wouldn't loose out too much.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: tbarnfield99 on January 28, 2011, 01:24:01 PM
1. Trescothick
2. Atherton
3. Vaughan (C)
4. Pieterson
5. Thorpe
6. Flintoff
7. Stewart (WK)
8. Swann
9. Anderson
10. Gough
11. Caddick

12. Tufnell
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 28, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Just been doing a bit of stats analysis of players figures during the period 1st Jan 2000 to today.

Trott (1600 runs @ 61.53) and Thorpe (3145 runs @ 53.30) are automatic picks, as are KP (5666 @ 48.42) and Cook (5130 @ 47.50)

John Crawley comes next in the list of averages but he has only played 8 games in the period, so I would discount him.

Then you have Bell (4192 @ 44.12), Trescothick (5825 @ 43.79), Strauss (6084 @ 43.14), Prior (2148 @ 42.96) and Vaughan (5631 @ 42.02)

My top 7 would be:

Strauss
Cook
Trott
KP
Thorpe
Bell
Prior

On to the bowlers:

The top 4 wickettakers for England during the period (Hoggard 248, Harmison 222, Flintoff 213, Anderson 212) all have between 212 and 248 Test wickets, and have an average of between 30.50 and 32.94.

Looking further down the list some stats stick out:  Swann (128 wickets @ 28.10), Gough (94 @ 27.42), Sidebottom (79 @ 28.24), Jones (59 @ 28.23), Finn (46 @ 26.23)

My attack would be Swann, Flintoff, Gough and Anderson, giving me a side of:

Strauss
Cook
Trott
KP
Thorpe
Bell
Prior
Flintoff
Swann
Gough
Anderson
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: pup12 on January 28, 2011, 03:54:01 PM
After 1 good series against australia you pick cook?!! Speechless. Trescothicks class will not be matched for a while.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 28, 2011, 04:08:01 PM
Was very close as to who I would have opening with Cook, Strauss or Trescothick.  But I would have Strauss as skipper so Trescoi just misses out, no matter how good he is/was.  Cook is just turned 26 and already has 16 Test centuries (2 more than Trescothick made in his career) - he will go on to be one of England's all time greats and undoubtedly will be England's all time leading runscorer.  Hard to leave a guy like that out.  Tresco was an outstanding international batsman, but Cook is better.
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: procricket on January 28, 2011, 04:13:44 PM
Foster is a great shout, best keeper this country has had since Jack Russell, and given that Swanny bat's as well, we wouldn't loose out too much.

i still think read is as good as foster but agree both are very good
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Alvaro on January 28, 2011, 04:15:58 PM
Tresco has won games by attacking with big centuries - like against SAfrica in 2004/5 at Jo'Burg. Hoggy may have got 7-fer in a session but Tresco gave him something to bowl at:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/64119.html
That 180 in not very long will live in the memory and that's why he gets in ahead of Cook, for now...
Title: Re: Your best England XI from the last 10 years
Post by: Colesy on January 28, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Vaughan (c)
4. KP
5. Bell
6. Freddie
7. Stewart
8. Broad
9. Swanny
10. Anderson
11. Harmison