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Title: growing Willow
Post by: pacman75cricket on February 22, 2011, 08:41:58 PM
Can I plant Willow trees in my garden to potentially harvest in 15 + years if so where can I purchase saplings
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: hell4leather cricket on February 22, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
idealy you need them to be near water /wet ground ,i have palnted 80 near my workshop. It all depends what soil you have as well
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 08:51:57 PM
If you plant them and they hit 80/100ft will they do damage when they fall?
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: pacman75cricket on February 22, 2011, 08:55:26 PM
Just wandered as have 100 ft garden if leylandai at bottom backs onto field. But not near water so sounds like a nono just a thought
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: essexarsenal on February 22, 2011, 08:58:30 PM
email j s wrights - i think they can send someone over to you and they assess the land etc etc
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
They are fine with wet ground, as long as they get water year round, they might grow slower but will still grow.

J S Wrights will only plant if it is worth doing, you would have to have a decent stretch of land and sign a contract.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: johnnyw on February 22, 2011, 09:02:16 PM
I have a 8 acre field on my farm that would be perfect for willow trees.

Hopefully in the next 5 years I will get to plant willow trees in it but it wont be simple
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 09:04:26 PM
Bear me in mind, I'll plant up for you.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: johnnyw on February 22, 2011, 09:07:47 PM
Bear me in mind, I'll plant up for you.
I also live in Ireland so that complicates things
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
Not really, unless you have a IRA arms cache under your field.....
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: jonpinson on February 22, 2011, 09:16:28 PM
Bet the bats would be guns if that were true.

I'll get me coat.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: johnnyw on February 22, 2011, 09:17:42 PM
Ha just thought the distance from available services would make it difficult to do...

Would cost a fair bit to do and it is hard to get grants at the moment. The field is perfect as it has a very high water table all year round

If willow is sown in Ireland then would it be classed as English willow or super special Irish willow?
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 09:20:25 PM
Irish Willow, but with a very similar climate should grow well.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: johnnyw on February 22, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
How many trees do you think I would be able to plant in 8 acres Mike?
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: GJ on February 22, 2011, 09:26:59 PM
Mike, do you own your own willow plantation and use that for all your bats and your 21 million grainers!? I imagine the best place for having one is kent/essex area as JS Wrights are based there. Warsop briefly mentioned they had a plantation just outside their workshop last time i was there as well.

Would love to be involved in the felling stage although I imagine its bloody hard work and would take a long time!
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on February 22, 2011, 09:29:04 PM
480, roughly, depending on size and shape.

Warsop have tree's outside their workshop, some have been felled, some need a little longer, I want to plant away from the big boys, loads grown in the West Country, why plant near rivals?

Felling is easy, just hire a team to do it for you, ask Dom, he gets to carry branches to the shredder.... easy work.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Buzz on April 19, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
Just a quick random question - I am thinking of planting a cricket bat willow tree in my garden (near the lake) - but wanted to know how big a cricket bat willow tree would grow - If they are as big as a "weeping" willow tree, I may have to rethink my plan as I don't want to block off too much light from the summer house veranda.*

(* there may be a few exaggerations in this post, but the size of the tree question is valid)

The interweb says: the finest are Salix alba coerulea which grow to 30m high and 4 - 6m in girth in nature.

which may be a little larger than expected...!

BUt then the same page says: Cricket bat willows are one of the fastest growing of all trees in Britain and are ready for harvesting after 12-15 years when they measure some 120cm in circumference at 150cm above ground and stand 12m tall.

which would be fine...
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: jonpinson on April 19, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
That's easy then, cut it down when it is big enough. No doubt if it was left it could get seriously big and willow is a very dangerous tree to have when it gets big.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: tim2000s on April 19, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
That's easy then, cut it down when it is big enough. No doubt if it was left it could get seriously big and willow is a very dangerous tree to have when it gets big.
It's dangerous because it starts chasing cricket balls?
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: jonpinson on April 19, 2011, 04:09:47 PM
No, big willow trees are notoriously crap. They frequently die from the centre outwards and can become very unstable without any real physical signs on the outside. Not fun dealing with them.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: tim2000s on April 19, 2011, 04:11:47 PM
Right, so grow to bat making size and be done then!
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: justnotcricket86 on April 19, 2011, 04:30:31 PM
I am currently growing some habanero and scotch bonnet chillis in my garden.

I will see how they go and possibly move into willow 
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: tim2000s on April 19, 2011, 05:28:13 PM
 
I am currently growing some habanero and scotch bonnet chillis in my garden.

I will see how they go and possibly move into willow 
Is that for Piri Piri bats?
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: jonpinson on April 19, 2011, 05:47:45 PM
It's a good thing willow makes good bats otherwise the wood would have no known use. Doesn't even burn well unless it's had 2 years seasoning.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: Talisman on April 19, 2011, 06:56:58 PM
Baskets....

Buzz, have the gardener ensure that the roots won't reach anything they can damage, they will get big but once you can get your arms round the trunk so that your fingertips don't touch it is ready for felling, they have a Tulip shape to the crown so wont block too much light.
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: justnotcricket86 on April 19, 2011, 08:08:05 PM
Is that for Piri Piri bats?

I like what you did there
Title: Re: growing Willow
Post by: jonpinson on April 19, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
That did require better acknowledgement to be fair.