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[langer17]

Thats different to what I witnessed at the factory Langer. They were weighed after being stickered and the weight written on them.

I went to GCCC in Janurary of this year, 3 bats that I tried said 2lb8oz and 1 said 2lb7.5oz (2 grips), all of them were over 2lb10oz, and the Head bloke at GCCC (Albion) told me that they are weighed as a natural weight. I bought a GN Predator Max LE a couple of years ago and the sticker weight was the same as when I weighed it, but they seemed to have shifted to having the natural weight on the bat, rather than the finished one.

[bigboy]

Natural weight is without oil or preperation. maybe they were from their Indian factory, there can be some variation there.

[johnnyw]

It is a valid point that the quoted weight some makers give is the weight of the bat before it is 'dressed' (stickers, grip, toe guard, anti scuff etc) which can add 2-4 ounces dependant on grip type. I know that H4L produce a bat that when dressed, weighs the desired weight (In my case, I requested 2'8, it weighed 2'5 undressed and bang on 2'8 when stickered).

However another consideration is your scales. Most kitchen scales aren't terribly accurate (fine for measuring ingredients as the error is a constant one, you still end up with the same ratio of ingredients) but for weighing bats they are not ideal. I've seen bats sold on the forum as, for example, 2'8 and when the new owner weighs it, they complain because their scales read 2'10.

The best thing to do is forget what the scales say and decide if the bat is too heavy by swinging it, comparing it to known bats that you know are not too heavy and go from there. If you still think it is too heavy, it will be worth trying to access some scales that you know are accurate before you contact MH.

This sums it up perfectly for you.

[langer17]

Natural weight is without oil or preperation. maybe they were from their Indian factory, there can be some variation there.

The terms 'Natural' and 'Naked' weights are effectively the same thing. He said without stickers and grip, which perfectly explains it. They were Legend's, so I doubt they were made in India. Variation's cover around 0.5oz, not 2oz.

[langer17]

I weighed it at GCCC, so their scales were much larger than kitchen scales and actualy designed for larger objects. But I see de-railing again.

What Jon has said is a perfect sum up.

[Lekka Global Alliance]

It's simple really, ask the batmaker to weight it on the workshop scales and email a picture where proof is shown.

Then the buyer can decide to take issue with the batmaker and either accept or reject the bat which has already been paid for inadvance.

[langer17]

It's simple really, ask the batmaker to weight it on the workshop scales and email a picture where proof is shown.

Then the buyer can decide to take issue with the batmaker and either accept or reject the bat which has already been paid for inadvance.

Also a good idea.

[Mpt7]

@ cover drive -  it an M&H original. the ping is awesome it's just feels like a road sleeper :p

@ jon pinson -  that's great advice - it is why i mentioned the weight scales. so off i go to get some of them

this is a replacement for a broken bat, which picked up like a dream and was my one of my favourite bats ( after my academy gm purist original)

can i legitimately go back to m&h or should i just chalk it up to a experience? the lesson being be more specific when ordering and go direct rather than over the phone

thanks all - great responses to my first meaningful post

[Six Sixes Cricket]

Insead of buying scales take the bat to your local post office and get them to weigh it. And yes you can return the bat if it is not the correct weight.

[jonpinson]

Insead of buying scales take the bat to your local post office and get them to weigh it. And yes you can return the bat if it is not the correct weight.

That is a very good idea, those scales will certainly be accurate.

To the OP: If it does turn out that the bat is both heavier than requested, and too heavy for you to use (two different things) then I'd imagine yes, you can request another in exchange. But lets not get ahead of ourselves yet.