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stevie

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Quick question
« on: July 20, 2009, 04:24:27 PM »

Who calls a waist high full toss, is it the square leg or the umpire at the bowlers end?

Also is a bouncer over head height is it a no ball or a wide?
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 04:26:42 PM »

I believe that the square leg umpire cannot call  the no-ball but can indicate to the standing umpire of his opinion.

Also in the Law book it is a No ball if over head height so it has always puzzled me to see wides given in the county and international game :)
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 05:30:19 PM »

Right on both counts as far as I understand it. 

The Law in question is Law 42 - Fair and Unfair Play.

For the first question, it would be Law 42-8.  All other paragraphs under Law 42 specify that the action shall be taken by the umpire at the bowler's end.  However, in Law42-8, it just says the umpire.  So perhaps both umpires have the power to call it a no ball.

For the second question, the law to be looked at would be Law 42-7(a).  And I agree with the poster above.
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Re: Quick question
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2009, 09:56:06 PM »

In each competition played there is the set of the Laws of Cricket which we all know about (lol) and then there are the set of Rules which govern the competition being played. This of course gets fairly complicated when you umpire a large number of different competitions each year.
So read both in conjunction  and work your way through them because very often the various associations that run competitions make it almost unfathomerable what applies where. (Except of course to the local Rules legend who always believes he knows something more than the officials on the day). I could go into chapter and verse here but won't.

In competitions where there is only one official umpire the calling height it will be generally done by the official umpire at the bowlers end.

As for over head high in bouncers, look at the local playing Rules before applying the Law just the same as you look in that direction if a ball misses the whole ut surface.

Junior coaches especially need to understand that the Laws and Rules need to be read in conjunction with each other. Frankly there are a number of junior coaches out there who coach teams to win competitions by exploiting Rules and ignoring Laws and there are a few umpires who allow them to do it, sad as that sounds. I invoked Law 42 in a recent junior competition where a coach had drilled his team for the previous two years in a Rule 'loophole' for the carnival. He used an old trick of forgetting the Law. The use of Law 42 ended his winning run.

So read the Laws and Rules. Perhaps the easiest thing to do would be for various associations to make things intelligible for players and umpires alike in competitions. I know this is now happening in various places but I am heartily sick of seeing folks thumb through various pieces of documentation to gain some weird advantage based on secret local interpreatations. Thankfully that rubbish rarely happens to me.
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