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Chad

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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2013, 10:12:05 PM »

Bulldog Pedigree Plus (Slightly altered Amplus shape), Newbery Tour and Tomahawk, Affinity Spectre, H4L Hattori and Tempo. I'm sure I've had plenty more with long middles, but excluding custom shapes, these are the ones which I remember off the top of my head. Longest middle out of these would probably be the Tour(2.11), Pedigree Plus(2.11) or Affinity(2.14), although I couldn't imagine what the Newbery Tomahawk would be like if it was heavier! Weighs just a touch over 2.7!
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 02:02:56 AM »

I was wondering, why don't everyone makes long middle bat....surely it could only be a good thing?
Longer middle needs more willow (or less taken off) and normally towards the toe of the bat. And the more willow you have lower down the blade, the more it affects pickup.

So it's a compromise between having a long sweetspot or a not so long middle but better pickup.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 09:41:30 AM »

Longer middle needs more willow (or less taken off) and normally towards the toe of the bat. And the more willow you have lower down the blade, the more it affects pickup.

So it's a compromise between having a long sweetspot or a not so long middle but better pickup.

That's the only explanation I can come up with in my head as well.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2013, 09:43:25 AM »

Because most big brands are focused on producing bats with huge edges at really low weights, which wouldn't be possible with a really nice long middle. That's why most of the bats talked about on this thread are the more boutique brands.

What's the fascination with huge edges....huge edges seem to be a top selling point.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2013, 09:55:51 AM »

What's the fascination with huge edges....huge edges seem to be a top selling point.

It makes your bat look bigger i guess is the main one. Most wood jealousy is caused by edge size so I guess it spread from there.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2013, 10:02:43 AM »

Bats with long middles generally have a high spine running through from the sweet spot to high up into the back of the blade, like the distinction profile, bats with minimal concaving generally have large wide sweet spots, i.e the tour. A combination of the two would produce the biggest sweet spot. But you have to remember the cleft itself and the pressing is just as important to have a nice big sweet spot.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2013, 10:48:55 AM »

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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2013, 10:57:47 AM »

GM bats such as the icon , flare have big middles as well as most kookaburra bats
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2013, 01:03:03 PM »

SS LE has along middle and the pick up is awesome.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2013, 01:28:45 PM »

Why would anyone want a bat with a short middle?
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2013, 01:47:33 PM »

GM bats such as the icon , flare have big middles as well as most kookaburra bats

Disagree with the Kookaburra, I found most of them to have small middles! The only model I remember having a long middle was the Beast, although I may have just been unlucky. That being said, my brother's Ricochet is going nicely, although it doesn't have a long middle, it is relatively responsive for a good proportion of the blade.

Bats with long middles generally have a high spine running through from the sweet spot to high up into the back of the blade, like the distinction profile, bats with minimal concaving generally have large wide sweet spots, i.e the tour. A combination of the two would produce the biggest sweet spot. But you have to remember the cleft itself and the pressing is just as important to have a nice big sweet spot.

Personally found the Tour to have a really long sweetspot too, and was surprised at how it performs just as well as (if not better than) bats with a higher and defined spine. You wouldn't expect it from a bat with no spine, but it is a £300+ bat! If you can handle a bat around 2.10+ which picks up the same as it weighs, then I think the Tour is a good option, and Mike is right, the cleft and pressing is just as important.
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Re: Bats with long sweet spots?
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2013, 01:54:23 PM »

Why would anyone want a bat with a short middle?

If you're so good as to hit the ball in the same spot every time then i guess you want a smaller more concentrated middle, rather then a weaker but better spread one.
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