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Refurb process / advice
« on: September 08, 2013, 03:55:24 PM »

I've decided to clean up a few bats and want some advice and guidance from the people in the know!

I've taken the scuff sheets off (against the grain of course) and now ned the clean the faces up.

Firstly, the bats are still a bit "tacky" from the glue of the scuff sheet, how do i get these off? There isnt a great deal of it so was wondering if i just leave it will it dry enough to come off with the sanding?

Next up is the sanding itself. Do i go powered sander or hand sanding (or both?). As the bats have had a scuff on the main faces are quite clean so wondered if hand sanding would be enough?

Next question is the grade of papers, any advice on what to get and how many different grades?

Lastly i assume its just a oil (ive got some salix bat wax) and that should be job done?

Once ive done them and worked out the process i'll stick some before and after pics up

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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 04:18:30 PM »

If what is remaining from the removal of scuff sheets/tape is sticky, then a quick wipe with a cloth soaked in white spirit followed by scraping it with a credit card should get rid of it. If there isn't very much of it or the leftover is quite dry, almost chalky/flaky like really really old fibreglass tape then a sanding should remove it easily, but it can clog the sandpaper costing £'s in the long run.

A power sander will save you a lot of elbow grease! If you are going to hand sand be prepared to put in some long hours, i reccomened buying a sanding block too. The grades I have are:

80 - not always used, mainly there for really stubborn adhesive or sticker shadow.

120 - the grade I usually start with. Cleans up most bats nicely, coarse enough to work out seam marks and small cracks but gives a decent enough finish to move into a higher grade without much worry.

180 - see above, I sometimes start here if the bat is in very good nick.

220 - this grade is more about polishing than sanding really, this is where you start to see the bat come back to life.

240 - progressing on with the smoothing/polishing effect by now.

320/400/I've even got some 600 and 800 somewhere! - finish off the polishing effect, you will barely remove anything with these grades, but will generate a lovely finish.

Don't skip a grade of sandapaper. I don't mean you have to use the exact number I have, but don't go straight from 80 to 360 etc, this will ruin the finish!

After that I remove all the dust etc (usually by wiping on my clothing or with a microfibre cloth) and then apply some Lord Sheraton Wood Balsalm, salix bat wax is an alternative, but I find the wood Balsalm easier to use as it has a much softer consistency, my salix bat wax is very hard, like candle wax! Lord Sheraton is like butter that has been out the fridge for a day.

After applying the Balsalm or wax, leave to settle for a while and then buff to a lovely finish.
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 04:56:12 PM »

Thanks jake

How much sanding do you do with the sander? Sounds like a stupid question I know but just worries about taking too much off the bat. Just a few goes up and down the grain I assume until you can see a difference?
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 04:58:01 PM »

Also what's the difference between wet and dry sandpaper? Had a quick look
On eBay and there are a few packs but I don't know the difference
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 05:03:06 PM »

Thanks jake

How much sanding do you do with the sander? Sounds like a stupid question I know but just worries about taking too much off the bat. Just a few goes up and down the grain I assume until you can see a difference?

You will be able to see the difference between areas covered by the grade you are using and areas you haven't touched yet or used a coarser grade on.

To start with, you might have to spend quite a bit of time on certain areas with the coarser grades to remove deep seam marks, small cracks, stubborn glue/cherries etc. as you progress into the finer grades it is more about ensuring you get an even finish.

Itis very difficult to remove a noticeable amount of wood when sanding, you would need to spend a long time and work quite hard to do so, even with a power sander, so don't be afraid to go for it!

Wet and dry is a brand I think, or at least a type. You can use it dry or you can soak the paper in water which makes it last longer.

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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 05:05:40 PM »

Thanks jakes (again)

Father in law has a power sander so will borrow that and will get some sand paper too and try this next weekend.
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 09:26:30 AM »

Just done the refurbs and I'm pretty impressed with the outcome. Followed jakes advice an they've come out great. Will get some pics up later
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 10:32:41 AM »

Here are some pics

cleaned up two bats, one willostix anaconda (before and after pics) and a willostix spitfire classic (just after pics)





Have used some salix bat wax on them and like i said earlier im really pleased with the outcome
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Re: Refurb process / advice
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 12:15:52 PM »

Nice input there Jake.

Also like this article from CricTech

http://liveandbreathecricket.blogspot.com/2013/01/cricket-bat-care.html
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