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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 05:05:29 PM »

Moody is a good shout. Not sure if there are many candidates from county cricket, Peter moores anyone?
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 05:55:13 PM »

The only one from county cricket might be Moxon; which as a Yorkshire fan I like, but as an England fan I would hate. Other than that they're either past it, not up to it, tainted by association with Peter Moores or not yet there.
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 06:10:05 PM »

Fattus would do a good job, no?

Can't see Flower going, can't see him being pushed out either. What i can see is a gritty old warrior of a cricketer who has formed a great team that for whatever reason (age, over confidence/lack of desire, mental issues, injury etc) is now entering that phase I hate; 'transition.' (Surely every bloody team ever is in transition?!?)

Does he have the will to build a new team? I believe so. There are also some good signs to point towards the future; Root, Carberry (maybe not long term future due to age, though he is a fine athlete, but he is new to the team) Stokes and it looks like Bell has finally developed some grit and nous to go with all that talent.

Cook
Carberry
Bell
Root
Stokes
Broad
Bresnan
Anderson

Is a decent 8 to form a core of a side, with questions marks over KP, Prior, Swann and Trott. If at least 2 of them remain for at least a few more years and get their heads back in the game, then we have some wonderful senior players to pass on experience as well as being talented cricketers.

Wh else gets a proper go now? Onions? Finn? Bairstow? Taylor? Morgan? Tredwell? Ballance?

All that being said, i do believe Flower will be there to oversee whatever happens in the coming years.
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 07:02:03 PM »

Tredwell is nowhere near good enough to play test cricket for England
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 07:18:05 PM »

Fattus would do a good job, no?

Can't see Flower going, can't see him being pushed out either. What i can see is a gritty old warrior of a cricketer who has formed a great team that for whatever reason (age, over confidence/lack of desire, mental issues, injury etc) is now entering that phase I hate; 'transition.' (Surely every bloody team ever is in transition?!?)

Does he have the will to build a new team? I believe so. There are also some good signs to point towards the future; Root, Carberry (maybe not long term future due to age, though he is a fine athlete, but he is new to the team) Stokes and it looks like Bell has finally developed some grit and nous to go with all that talent.

Cook
Carberry
Bell
Root
Stokes
Broad
Bresnan
Anderson

Is a decent 8 to form a core of a side, with questions marks over KP, Prior, Swann and Trott. If at least 2 of them remain for at least a few more years and get their heads back in the game, then we have some wonderful senior players to pass on experience as well as being talented cricketers.

Wh else gets a proper go now? Onions? Finn? Bairstow? Taylor? Morgan? Tredwell? Ballance?

All that being said, i do believe Flower will be there to oversee whatever happens in the coming years.

IMO jimmy Anderson doesn't have too many years left in him, Flower has already admitted to being worried about burnout with him.  Test match bowling must take its toll.  I think we need a really good young spinner, not Kerrigan.  Not many quality youngsters coming through in that respect.  Tymal Mills has to be given a chance as do Finn and Onions.  Great to see stokes doing well because he adds another dimension to the team with his bowling.  I personally think Bell will become captain before the next ashes. Broad is a good player when things are going his way but hasn't showed much grit.
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 08:38:33 PM »

Fattus would do a good job, no?

I feel I am ready, and offer better man-management skills that the other names offered up.

Besides - imagine how many dinners I'd get invited to!
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Re: If Flower get's on his bike....
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 08:55:18 PM »

Gooch

Please any but the Ilford Idiot. ( and Boycott)
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