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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2014, 06:57:35 AM »

concaving or no concaving

Simple question, where do u hit the ball most, and so where do u want to see the most wood.

Concaving effectively takes wood out of the hitting zone and redistributing to the edge. Giving a visually pleasing bat. If done correctly it can be a good way of bringing weight down, improving pick up without compromising on playability. The problem we face is, we all want massive bats at light weights, unfortunately willow doesn't always come like that.

Where it is done extreme and the incurve goes below the edge I reckon you're killing the bats rebound ability. Where there remains sufficient "depth or thickness" of wood still behind the ball you're not.


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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2014, 08:23:30 AM »

I would say anything where the concaving stops the spine from rising at the edge can't be good. The idea of a spine is to increase power in the shot and if you end up with a few mm in the middle, almost like a shark fin effect, then most of the bat doesn't have a middle just an extended edge.

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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2014, 10:24:41 AM »

I would say anything where the concaving stops the spine from rising at the edge can't be good. The idea of a spine is to increase power in the shot and if you end up with a few mm in the middle, almost like a shark fin effect, then most of the bat doesn't have a middle just an extended edge.

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Except the scoop disproved this theory.

I'd like a well pressed 2lb10oz bat with a uniform distribution of mass along the blade.  A railway sleeper if you will.

I suspect that while it might look daft,  it would still hit sixes...

Thinking about it further,  I wonder whether the spine on a cricket bat was simply introduced as a structural element to stop a plank shaped bat snapping as easily and has no real bearing on performance? I think another batmakers challenge is on the cards.

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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2014, 10:36:22 AM »

I was waiting for the scoop comment lol

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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 11:14:46 AM »

Except the scoop disproved this theory.

I'd like a well pressed 2lb10oz bat with a uniform distribution of mass along the blade.  A railway sleeper if you will.

I suspect that while it might look daft,  it would still hit sixes...

Thinking about it further,  I wonder whether the spine on a cricket bat was simply introduced as a structural element to stop a plank shaped bat snapping as easily and has no real bearing on performance? I think another batmakers challenge is on the cards.

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I'm also thinking Newbery Tour, they'd all be blanks if the spine was vital (and now I think of it, I can't think of any Newbery's with a huge spine...)
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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2014, 11:26:13 AM »

Red ink made someone a flat backed cricket bat didn't they?



Also the gn duel t20 twin sided bat. Warner hit sixes with it! Although I believe he only sued it in two matches.
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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2014, 11:46:56 AM »

got the string out



left to right in my opinion

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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2014, 10:40:24 PM »

Except the scoop disproved this theory.

I'd like a well pressed 2lb10oz bat with a uniform distribution of mass along the blade.  A railway sleeper if you will.

I suspect that while it might look daft,  it would still hit sixes...

Thinking about it further,  I wonder whether the spine on a cricket bat was simply introduced as a structural element to stop a plank shaped bat snapping as easily and has no real bearing on performance? I think another batmakers challenge is on the cards.

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If you introduce a spine as a structural element to prevent the bat snapping it should also improve performance as you have effectively made the bat structurally stiffer, which will make the ball rebound better off the bat. It would be interesting if anyone had done a cad element analysis of the structural performance of different shaped bats.
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Re: Measuring Concaving
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2014, 11:32:35 PM »

If you introduce a spine as a structural element to prevent the bat snapping it should also improve performance as you have effectively made the bat structurally stiffer, which will make the ball rebound better off the bat. It would be interesting if anyone had done a cad element analysis of the structural performance of different shaped bats.
That's a fair point that I hadn't considered,  although given the material at hand and the level of compression the unpressed section below the crust can sustain,  does it make a lot of difference? We aren't dealing with a uniform material.

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