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TheBiologist

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Hello all,

I am not sure if this has already been addressed on this forum. Do the lengths of the handles in standard short handled cricket bats vary with brands ? I am in the process of getting a bat custom made. I am quite unsure if I should get a short handle or a super short handle. I went to the field today for practice and observed that one of my team mates CA bats handle is longer than the one in my SS Kashmir willow bats, by half an inch if not more. I asked him if it is a long handled bat but he said that it is the short handle. I am quite sure that mine is a standard short handle too. Can you guys throw some light on it ?

On another note, why should one get a super short handle instead of standard short handle ? I am considering it as sometimes while playing the cross batted shots the handle tend to get caught in my wrist (due to shots played with low elbow). I know that this is a technical problem and I need to fix it. Should I instead stick with the standard short handle. I am just 5 ft 7.5 inch. :-)

Any advice ?

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Off all the bats I have had,  handles have been same size when buying SH.

I once came  across a kashmir with SSH and it gave me wrist pain trying to play any shots really. I would suggest avoid SSH.
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Pretty sure some of the CA Bats have a shorter blade and longer handle, but measure up identical in overall length to a standard short . Similar to a Mongoose COR3, however the blade is slightly longer. Its a 20/20 adaptation to give the bat more bat speed.

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some bat brands do have slightly longer handles and shorter blades. There was a bat maker here in Aus that is near me said he use to do it so he could balance his bats better and could get more timber into the blade by sacrificing 1-2cm of shoulder but still maintaining the standard total length of a SH.

SSH are personal preference really, if you choke the bat it might suit you as it wont get in the way when trying to drive but if you hold mid to high i would just stick with a SH
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SSH handles  fitted to Pre made bats  tend to be thicker and can as previously stated cause wrist pain and also affect shot control they are perhaps more suitable for players with larger hands. due to handle thickness SSH handles can assist with bat speed and pickup. Due to your current bat handle getting caught in your wrist a standard short handle one inch shorter should resolve the problem.
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Off all the bats I have had,  handles have been same size when buying SH.
I once came  across a kashmir with SSH and it gave me wrist pain trying to play any shots really. I would suggest avoid SSH.


What is the length of a standard short handle vs a super short handle  ?

Pretty sure some of the CA Bats have a shorter blade and longer handle, but measure up identical in overall length to a standard short . Similar to a Mongoose COR3, however the blade is slightly longer. Its a 20/20 adaptation to give the bat more bat speed.

I think this could explain the difference.

SSH handles  fitted to Pre made bats  tend to be thicker and can as previously stated cause wrist pain and also affect shot control they are perhaps more suitable for players with larger hands. due to handle thickness SSH handles can assist with bat speed and pickup. Due to your current bat handle getting caught in your wrist a standard short handle one inch shorter should resolve the problem.


An inch ? John from Red Ink told me that he could fit the bat with what he calls as a 'mini handle' but is shorter than the regular short handle by half an inch. I am not quite sure how long is a standard short handle in a Red Ink.

And how thick is thick ? I have also noticed that some handles are way thicker than others, for example I saw a Hammer the other day and it felt like the bat has pencil thin handle, maybe to offset the weight. The bat was like 2.10 but felt quite heavy. And if you have to measure the width of the handle then do you measure it with the grip or without the grip ?

 


I have relatively smaller hands. The handle in the Kashmir willow that I have has handle length of 11 inch and blade length of 22 inch. I have never used this bat in practice or match as it is a dud but it feels quite right in my hands. I have posted a few pics here. I grip the bat at the very bottom and there is only a very small gap between my hands. Any suggestion on which handle I should go for ?
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A thicker oval handle would aid you from gripping the bat that low. Sehwag, If I remember correctly saws off the handle and it looks like your grip is similar to his.
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A thicker oval handle would aid you from gripping the bat that low. Sehwag, If I remember correctly saws off the handle and it looks like your grip is similar to his.

I am getting an oval handle in my Red Ink. But how thick is thick ? One of my team mates have huge hands and he has a Kook with what he calls a thick oval handle. That thing is pretty hard to grip tightly with my hands. :-)

And is a thick oval handle with one grip better than a thin oval handle with two grips when it comes to cutting down vibration/jarring ?
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Given your grip and height a SSH makes sense.

Just be a bit careful with your bat weights as the extra handle will be helping with balance... so you may need a slightly lighter SSH bat.
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Had same issue, it can really hurt.

just took an inch off my gray nics and Red Ink made me one with an inch shorter handle, it's ace.

Adjusted balance of loss of weight at the top with a golf lead tape counter weight and it is so much better!



It is 2lb 9 but also has 2.5/3 oz of lead at the top to aid pick up, handle is 10.75"
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Given your grip and height a SSH makes sense.

Just be a bit careful with your bat weights as the extra handle will be helping with balance... so you may need a slightly lighter SSH bat.

Found another thread which says that standard short handle is 11 1/2 inch and SSH is 11 inch. Just need to confirm with John now.

Had same issue, it can really hurt.

just took an inch off my gray nics and Red Ink made me one with an inch shorter handle, it's ace.

Adjusted balance of loss of weight at the top with a golf lead tape counter weight and it is so much better!

I am going for a bat weight of 2.9 fully dressed at max. What is your bat weight and how long is your handle, 11 inch or 10 1/2 inch ?
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A thicker handle with one grip assists balance and pickup more so than a thin handle with more than one grip. If possible be present when the handle is being fitted to the blade that way you can grip the handle and decide what handle thickness is best for you prior to binding and gripping. If you cannot be present you could tape and pad out an existing bat or broom handle to get the shape and thickness you require and then measure the circumference.
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11.5 inch  and 22 inch handle is a SH size. 11 inch handle and same blade is a mini handle. The bat will be balanced well regardless of handle length do doesn't matter which you go for. I would recommend a mini handle As I think that would suit you better as you hold it lower.
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11.5 inch  and 22 inch handle is a SH size. 11 inch handle and same blade is a mini handle. The bat will be balanced well regardless of handle length do doesn't matter which you go for. I would recommend a mini handle As I think that would suit you better as you hold it lower.

I think this settles my questions. Thanks John! I will go for a oval mini handle with a bit more thickness at the bottom than at the top. :-)
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