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[Gingerbusiness]

Bumrah for having a name which people across the world will be giggling about!

Sounds like a game people from Ox-Bridge play!

[himanshuvohra]

There are a number of points here...
1. the standard isn't a middle ground it is pretty low.

I ll have to disagree with you on this....ipl has set standards...and i think any tournament of this stature with players from all nationalities playing can never be of low standard....it has been a launchpad for many players like shaun marsh, steve smith, sunil narine..etc by giving them international recognition....


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[tim2000s]

I ll have to disagree with you on this....ipl has set standards...and i think any tournament of this stature with players from all nationalities playing can never be of low standard....it has been a launchpad for many players like shaun marsh, steve smith, sunil narine..etc by giving them international recognition....


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Doesn't make it a high quality tournament. There is plenty of dross in amongst the big names. That and some of the smallest boundaries in "world" cricket simply creates standards that mean a lot of sixes are hit...

[csnew]

Doesn't make it a high quality tournament. There is plenty of dross in amongst the big names. That and some of the smallest boundaries in "world" cricket simply creates standards that mean a lot of sixes are hit...

To be fair some of the county grounds would also be up there for the smallest boundaries in the world too

[mo_town]

Doesn't make it a high quality tournament. There is plenty of dross in amongst the big names. That and some of the smallest boundaries in "world" cricket simply creates standards that mean a lot of sixes are hit...

Each tournament has it's set of bad players. I personally would rate IPL thrid after BBL and the South African T20 league...but IPL does generally brings together some of the best T20 players in the world and good upcoming local Indian talent. This year, there have been a few who have stood out.

I would rate Manan Vohra the best of the lot this yr. he's a good talent.

[Nickauger]

No chance. Half of these Indian players have never played any First Class cricket. The standard is dross lol. How many games have been won by home grown batting talent in this years IPL? Bowling has been OK, but otherwise its all about the indian test players, and overseas pros!

[Buzz]

I ll have to disagree with you on this....ipl has set standards...and i think any tournament of this stature with players from all nationalities playing can never be of low standard....it has been a launchpad for many players like shaun marsh, steve smith, sunil narine..etc by giving them international recognition....

Shuan Marsh? - urm - talented, but ultimately failed test player
Steve Smith - come to prominence through Aussie First Class cricket and Test cricket
Narine - chucker who isn't good enough for test cricket - and when he did play got spanked.

no the standard is poor - Mike Hussey has retired from cricket and has hardly played in the last year - but turns up and is a leading performer, that says all you need to know and as Nick says none of the journeyman players turn games - unlike in other competitions around the world.

the standards the IPL has set is around marketing, making money, blowing their own trumpet, desperate commentary - and being hugely fun to watch (which is absolutely the point of professional sport - and why I watch the ILP, when I can)

The reality is that even after 7 editions, I still don't have a favourite team - and really don't care who plays - I just enjoy the spectacle.

Regardless - I think Sanju Sampson is going to be a tremendous player

[himanshuvohra]

No chance. Half of these Indian players have never played any First Class cricket. The standard is dross lol. How many games have been won by home grown batting talent in this years IPL? Bowling has been OK, but otherwise its all about the indian test players, and overseas pros!

i agree that half of the indian players have never played 1st class cricket.....agree that ipl has been ruled mostly by overseas players like dwayne smith, maxwell miller....
but the whole point is standard.....

and i think more then half of the forum members watch ipl...if the standard was this low why would they even watch or discuss it.....dont act like ECB :-p(no offence, take it as a joke budd)

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE 1 THING VERY CLEAR

i am not demeaning any other tournament, and this thread was never about the standard of the tournament. just the quality of young players its producing.

[himanshuvohra]

and if BCCI knows how to make money out of a tournament....then there is nothing wrong in it.....if they made it look fancy so that whole world watches it, then this is one thing which every board should follow.......

[Nickauger]

Woah lol, the fact that the only decent players are the overseas pros, most of which are washed up and/or international failures demeans the quality of the tournament. The forum watches it I'm sure because its free cricket,  wouldn't watch it if there was anything better on. I don't think there have been any players out of the ipl who have been a exceptional internationals. I reckon I'd look class and score a bucket load of runs in an under 9s tournament, stick me in an international team and I'd look a bit poo!

[The Palmist]

On the whole quality of cricket thing, of course IPL can never even be compared to test cricket. Apart from being a dice game for the rich, it does offer young talents a chance at creating their name without spending years and years trying to prove themselves in first class cricket. At the same time it is extremely unfair to first class cricketers as someone with a lot less experience can get picked up over them.

In reality, most of the "IPL Talent", especially the Indian ones will never get to wear the test cap. It doesn't matter though, leave T20, IPL where it is, it must not be compared to ODIs or Test.

It has helped innovate cricket [especially batting] and the shots experimented in IPL are now seen in world wide cricket.

Great fun to watch and free on ITV so happy days.

I find IPL more entertaining than FT20, BBL, BPL etc.

[CrickFreak]

Firstly, IPL was never meant to compete with International cricket. Thats why there is a restriction of only 4 foreign cricketers in the playing 11. The whole idea was to groom Indian talent, entertain and make money. And I guess IPL has achieved most of it. Where else a 19 yr old Sanju Samson will get to face  Mitchell Johnson bowling at 150 KPH , or Akshar Patel get a chance to bowl to AB. These 19-20 year olds are just going to get better. Where else they would get a chance to bat alongside AB when he is whacking Steyn.
And not just Indian youngsters, even foreign born like Miller, Lendl would have gained so much.
Just the exposure to be around Indian and international pros and coaches is going to make so much difference to these young cricketers.
And its already showing, the way Manan and some of these guys have developed in last couple of seasons.
David Warner who has turned into a leading run scorer in Test cricket thanks to Viru. and this was Waner's own admission.

As far as the standards are concerned, there have been some terrific catching, fielding, batting and bowling. The standards of IPL have matched international cricket and better in some cases.
As far as grounds are concerned, there are smaller grounds in UK, New Zealand and SA. The ground size is not the reason for so many sixes, its the competition. Most of the sixes hit are over 75-80 meters which is good enough for most of the international grounds.

As far as English crickets are concerned, its due to ECB's restrictions. And its understood because if the stars go play for IPL means less eye watching English cricket means less advertisement means less money for ECB. Its unfortunate that both run at same time else guys like Stokes, Bopara, Anderson will get picked on day one of auction.
There are Indian and New Zealand coaches also

Going back to original question - I guess Akshar Patel is my pick.  62 overs, 17 wickets, economy of 6.2, very good for a 20 yr old. Just for comparison, SP Narine's stats - 60 overs, 20 wickets, economy of 6.01.
He can be a big threat to Jadeja if he can bat little better. He is tall and turn the ball, can be a great asset in test cricket. long way to go though.
T20 is batsman's game, so not going to pick a batsman 

[himanshuvohra]

Firstly, IPL was never meant to compete with International cricket. Thats why there is a restriction of only 4 foreign cricketers in the playing 11. The whole idea was to groom Indian talent, entertain and make money. And I guess IPL has achieved most of it. Where else a 19 yr old Sanju Samson will get to face  Mitchell Johnson bowling at 150 KPH , or Akshar Patel get a chance to bowl to AB. These 19-20 year olds are just going to get better. Where else they would get a chance to bat alongside AB when he is whacking Steyn.
And not just Indian youngsters, even foreign born like Miller, Lendl would have gained so much.
Just the exposure to be around Indian and international pros and coaches is going to make so much difference to these young cricketers.
And its already showing, the way Manan and some of these guys have developed in last couple of seasons.
David Warner who has turned into a leading run scorer in Test cricket thanks to Viru. and this was Waner's own admission.

As far as the standards are concerned, there have been some terrific catching, fielding, batting and bowling. The standards of IPL have matched international cricket and better in some cases.
As far as grounds are concerned, there are smaller grounds in UK, New Zealand and SA. The ground size is not the reason for so many sixes, its the competition. Most of the sixes hit are over 75-80 meters which is good enough for most of the international grounds.

As far as English crickets are concerned, its due to ECB's restrictions. And its understood because if the stars go play for IPL means less eye watching English cricket means less advertisement means less money for ECB. Its unfortunate that both run at same time else guys like Stokes, Bopara, Anderson will get picked on day one of auction.
There are Indian and New Zealand coaches also

Going back to original question - I guess Akshar Patel is my pick.  62 overs, 17 wickets, economy of 6.2, very good for a 20 yr old. Just for comparison, SP Narine's stats - 60 overs, 20 wickets, economy of 6.01.
He can be a big threat to Jadeja if he can bat little better. He is tall and turn the ball, can be a great asset in test cricket. long way to go though.
T20 is batsman's game, so not going to pick a batsman 

very well said.....
IMO, IPL should never be compared to any form of international cricket....it should only be compared to BBL, English T20 and SA t20.....never seen english version so really cant comment otherwise i think its better then SA T20 but at par with BBL....

akshar patel is indeed looking great, the way he bowled last night was amazing......and was one of the few matches in which it was only indian players showing their worth in a tight match.