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Cumbrian Pete

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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #285 on: June 30, 2014, 12:27:15 PM »

UKnsaunders - Bang on!  Moores failed the first time around.  I would have KP as captain, Stokes back in the side and Stewart as coach...that would bring some balls back to the England team.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #286 on: June 30, 2014, 12:29:33 PM »

You have to have the blend of both - as a coach you have to embrace the modern techniques.  By 'laptop' coach do you mean the perception that they hide behind the screens and spend all their time analysing data?  If so, that's every successful coach on the planet.  Fletcher, Lehman - all 'laptop' coaches...

The days of simply rocking up, giving a Churchillian speech, kissing the badge and sending them out to play will never return.  Elite sport is as much about preparation, analysing opponents and using psychological techniques as being motivated and having the ability.  Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Lehman is a superb man-manager, clearly.  Don't assume he's all aussie grit and bluster though - he will have a group behind him doing exactly the same stuff as England's army of backroom staff - they just may not be visible on the balcony or even at the ground.

I do think Alec Stewart has the potential to be a very successful coach, hopefully one day for England.  By his own admission he says he's not ready - though I'm certain he'd say yes if asked.  I feel Moores needs to be given his chance.  I don't think he'd ever be picked again if he hadn't acknowledged his shortfalls first time around and learnt from them.  He was very successful at Lancashire and whether you agree with his appointment or not, he has the tools for the job.  I think its naive with a new, developing side to expect success on the field straight away.  I actually admire The ECB for going back to someone.  There's a sense in this country that you have to have someone new, whereas across the world countries will go back to coaches/managers who've gone away, learnt and been successful (football - Brazil, Holland, Italy).  We tend to give people one shot and that's it.  Why can't you fail, learn/develop and then be successful?

Re; Botham, I think a lot of TV and radio pundits have the issue of their opinions being aired publicly about players and the team.  They can quickly alienate players they then may manage/coach.  Look at Strauss when he started at Sky.  Largely he sat on the fence because he hadn't decided what he was going to do once retired and didn't want to criticise the England players publicly if he wanted to go into coaching.  Therefore, I think whereas Botham has the inspirational qualities, I'm not certain he could take a more visible role than as a speaker/consultant to the team.  I think Hussain, Atherton, Vaughan have a lot to offer, but maybe once their old team mates have retired...
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #287 on: June 30, 2014, 12:32:23 PM »

I can't see the players following KP.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #288 on: June 30, 2014, 12:53:52 PM »

I can't see the players following KP.

Totally agree. He's not a leader, though he likes to think he is.  Plenty of top talented players aren't (Tendulkar, Lara, Kallis, Botham to name a few).
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #289 on: June 30, 2014, 01:25:12 PM »

If Moores has the tools to do the job or not, the ECB have made him the tool with the job and I can't see any significant chops and changes before the next Ashes series.
We'll have Cook and Moores until the end of that series at least.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #290 on: June 30, 2014, 01:35:25 PM »

As a certain Alex Hales has found form in the red ball for of the game soon could we soon be seeing him in all formats for England too??
He's such a great talent it seems a shame to limit him as an international T20 specialist, he offers so much more than that!
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #291 on: June 30, 2014, 01:39:16 PM »

As a certain Alex Hales has found form in the red ball for of the game soon could we soon be seeing him in all formats for England too??
He's such a great talent it seems a shame to limit him as an international T20 specialist, he offers so much more than that!

Has to be in the one day side!!

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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #292 on: June 30, 2014, 01:39:46 PM »

As a certain Alex Hales has found form in the red ball for of the game soon could we soon be seeing him in all formats for England too??
He's such a great talent it seems a shame to limit him as an international T20 specialist, he offers so much more than that!

Agreed, although he has had a bit of a stinker at the beginning of the season!
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #293 on: June 30, 2014, 02:43:08 PM »

I'd like to see Hales opening for England in all forms, he offers something different to what we currently have. Root will be at 5 for a while as the ECB have him cotton wooled to take over from Cook, hence Ballance being thrown in at 3, when  he bats 5 for Yorkshire. It's no lose for the ECB, if Ballance does well they have a new number 3, if he doesn't they drop him for the next 3 off the conveyor belt and Root remains their man sitting at 5.   
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #294 on: June 30, 2014, 06:16:00 PM »

Tough decision - its hard to see who would be dropped for him but if he continues to perform at the level he is right now he makes a powerful case.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #295 on: August 19, 2014, 12:17:32 PM »

Just curious as to why 100's in Asia are crap/useless? if it was that bad then why don't SA, Aus & Eng just show up and sweep all the series and score loads of runs? Just because your team and some others are better at playing fast bowling but not so adept at handling spin does not mean 100's in Asia are crap if scored by an Asian but must be hailed if scored by a player from outside of Asia.

Because you can be flawed technically and still score a double/triple hundred on Asian pitches. You have absolutely pedestrian batsmen like Gambhir average close to 50 in India.

I on average subtract 6 runs off the average for Indian/SL batsmen and about 3 runs for Pakistani batsmen.
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