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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2016, 07:21:28 PM »

 Not wanting to do whats already been posted Put the bat in the airing cupboard.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2016, 07:41:51 PM »

Before you do anything silly all my h4l have lost a bit of weight this is because matts workshop is cold so they would of taken on some extra weight after being in the house for two weeks I sure it will drop some weight like mine have
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2016, 07:50:33 PM »

Just play with the bat for a week before you do anything. If you still feel uncomfortable, give the face a light sand, should take off half an ounce.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2016, 07:55:18 PM »

Before you do anything silly all my h4l have lost a bit of weight this is because matts workshop is cold so they would of taken on some extra weight after being in the house for two weeks I sure it will drop some weight like mine have


I was advised this too. Does anyone have any idea why bats gets heavier in the cold. Also how much weight loss is there in the bat after you keep in the house I.e warmer conditions?

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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2016, 07:56:48 PM »

Before you do anything silly all my h4l have lost a bit of weight this is because matts workshop is cold so they would of taken on some extra weight after being in the house for two weeks I sure it will drop some weight like mine have

Exactly this, mine has lost half an ounce after a week in the house so I'd hang tight if I was you.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2016, 08:02:21 PM »


I was advised this too. Does anyone have any idea why bats gets heavier in the cold. Also how much weight loss is there in the bat after you keep in the house I.e warmer conditions?

Basically Willow naturally takes on/loses natural moisture to match it's environment. Colder conditions tend to be more damp/have more moisture in the air, so the Willow takes some of this on.

I'm.a warmer place, such as a house, there is less moisture present I. the air than a workshop, so the bat will lose some moisture to match it's environment more closely. The opposite happens of you leave a bat in a steamy room such as a bathroom, it will take on moisture and gain some weight.

That is also why bats from warmer countries such as India or Australia tend to be "dryer" than English bats.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2016, 08:19:29 PM »

Basically Willow naturally takes on/loses natural moisture to match it's environment. Colder conditions tend to be more damp/have more moisture in the air, so the Willow takes some of this on.

I'm.a warmer place, such as a house, there is less moisture present I. the air than a workshop, so the bat will lose some moisture to match it's environment more closely. The opposite happens of you leave a bat in a steamy room such as a bathroom, it will take on moisture and gain some weight.

That is also why bats from warmer countries such as India or Australia tend to be "dryer" than English bats.

That's a really interesting point. So does moisture levels in the willow have any effect on the performance of a bat? Is that another reason for why subcontinental bats tend to break more easily? is it good for a bat to be in normal room conditions or should it actually be left out in the open where it is actually used?!
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2016, 08:29:53 PM »

That's a really interesting point. So does moisture levels in the willow have any effect on the performance of a bat? Is that another reason for why subcontinental bats tend to break more easily? is it good for a bat to be in normal room conditions or should it actually be left out in the open where it is actually used?!

A dryer bat will, in theory, allow more size for a lower weight. However you need some moisture in the blade for it to last when being us d to hit a ball. I think the "ideal" moisture content is about 8-10%. Bats from the subcontinent have maybe 5% in some cases, so while they look bigger they are more prone to breakages.

It's fine to keep your bat indoors, just don't leave it anywhere silly like next to a radiator or in the airing cupboard and you'll be fine  :)
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2016, 08:34:47 PM »

12 per cent is what JS Wrights sell it at...

I have had a good chat about dryer bat and i feel the fibres of a drier bat are nitted together better however lack durability hence the appearance of seam marks and so forth in people miss conception of softer pressed bats go better but do not last.

I did experiments with bats over a winter a few seasons ago whilst i can not find any performance gain from drying a bat out i can say they do mark and of course break much more. Do not overdry bats is my advice and yes i have used both radiator and airing cupboard techniques.

I know a very good handmaker who used to use the airing cupboard quite a bit and you tend to find proper over dried bats tend to have catastrophic breakeges.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2016, 08:39:32 PM by procricket B3 »
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2016, 08:46:02 PM »

12% bat moisture level... anyway we could measure that ourselves or is it something that needs to be done professionally?
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2016, 08:48:04 PM »

you would have to drill really mate pal trust the bat you have is what i say 1oz get a old diamond grip on it.....

I still like em
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2016, 09:01:29 PM »

Basically Willow naturally takes on/loses natural moisture to match it's environment. Colder conditions tend to be more damp/have more moisture in the air, so the Willow takes some of this on.

I'm.a warmer place, such as a house, there is less moisture present I. the air than a workshop, so the bat will lose some moisture to match it's environment more closely. The opposite happens of you leave a bat in a steamy room such as a bathroom, it will take on moisture and gain some weight.

That is also why bats from warmer countries such as India or Australia tend to be "dryer" than English bats.

You would not want your willow picking up moisture it could rot and thats why the ends are waxed to keep the moisture in you do not want moisture near you willow.
Cold and dry is ideal for storing williow.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2016, 09:22:15 PM »

Anywhere between 10 and 12 percent moisture is ideal also moisture meters only measure the  mositure on  the surface  of the bat
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 10:54:32 AM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2016, 04:32:48 AM »

Hi Guys, just bought a new Warbird G1 and its an absolute beaut! Grains are lovely and so far the ping looks really nice. My only slight little problem is It was listed as a 2lb 10oz bat but when I weighed it, it came out at 2lb 11oz. now the when picking it up it is a tiny bit heavier than what usually use. I dont like using double grips so was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to reduce the dead weight by like 0.5oz or 1 oz. would love it to be slightly lighter without compromising on performance in any way.

1 oz difference (heft) is nothing. The heavier bat will hit better than your lighter ones. Just use the bat. Over time, your body will grow stronger and will appreciate the power of this bat. Don't disfigure your bat by removing stickers, toe guard or the scuff sheet off a brand new bat; you will regret it later. Grow stronger instead.
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Re: Need to lose 1 oz in brand new bat
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2016, 04:53:52 AM »

Hi Guys, just bought a new Warbird G1 and its an absolute beaut! Grains are lovely and so far the ping looks really nice. My only slight little problem is It was listed as a 2lb 10oz bat but when I weighed it, it came out at 2lb 11oz. now the when picking it up it is a tiny bit heavier than what usually use. I dont like using double grips so was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to reduce the dead weight by like 0.5oz or 1 oz. would love it to be slightly lighter without compromising on performance in any way.

1 0z is as good as weightless. A human cannot even accurately tell 1-2 oz weight difference or any difference at all. Its psychological.
The problem is not 1 oz weight difference, its the profile of the bat. To make any significant difference -  the middle has to move up, toe has to be flattened out etc etc which will result in any signficant noticable difference.
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