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Chompy9760

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Masuri / Ton grading?
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:14:52 AM »
Masuri seem to have invented a new bat grading system, even though the company that makes the bats (Ton) still uses the old system.
Would anyone hazard a guess as to what the new system means, or in particular what grades their system might equate to?
E-line pro = selected from the top .5% of available global English Willow.
E-line = selected from the top 2%
T-line = selected from the top 4.5%
C-line = selected from the top 15%

I was originally thinking G1 select, G1, G2, G3, but that would mean 85% of global willow is less than G3.
I realize a hands on examination would be the best way, but I'm just looking at catalogs and trying to work out where they sit in the VFM department.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2020, 07:06:51 AM »
It’s all BS, pretty sure no maker is only picking from the top 20% of all willow.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2020, 08:50:37 AM »
Would that not mean they'd inspected and were constantly inspecting, all of the world's willow? 😆

This is why I stick with G1+, G1, G2 and G3. Easier for people to understand in my opinion.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2020, 09:57:25 AM »
Its just in line with there helmets isn’t it
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2020, 10:28:45 AM »
Grading is nonsense.

I just grade inline with Wrights in that in offer 3 grades from one to three. None of this G1+++ players, Test nonsense.

That’s just my view on grading.

Ton for example could separate all the willow they get ( I would guess Sareen must have a very large % of the worlds willow) and just use the top 15% for the Masuri/TON branded Bats.

Iv not seen any in the flesh to know how generous the grading is but as we all should know pretty doesn’t mean good performance.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2020, 10:34:24 AM »
Looks that way. You'd save a Ton by just buying an SS!

C-line (presuming its G3?) is listed at £320 on their site. I could almost make up two custom grade 3s for that money.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2020, 11:34:05 AM »
Quote from: Six Sixes Cricket on November 03, 2020, 09:57:25 AM
Its just in line with there helmets isn’t it
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That would make more sense than my interpretation of
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2020, 11:43:09 AM »
Quote from: jonny77 on November 03, 2020, 10:34:24 AM
Looks that way. You'd save a Ton by just buying an SS!

C-line (presuming its G3?) is listed at £320 on their site. I could almost make up two custom grade 3s for that money.

Thats what I'm getting at.  Is C-line actually G3, and would it be fair to compare it price wise to other G3's ? 
Hard to know without having them in your hands to compare.
Who knows what the marketing department were thinking, but it certainly wasn't simplifying things!
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2020, 12:28:10 PM »
Quote from: Chompy9760 on November 03, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
Thats what I'm getting at.  Is C-line actually G3, and would it be fair to compare it price wise to other G3's ? 
Hard to know without having them in your hands to compare.
Who knows what the marketing department were thinking, but it certainly wasn't simplifying things!

As far as I can understand, they seem to only be releasing bats in top grades which, given the amount that SS must consume, seems feasible but I agree that it is confusing.  I would think counter productive too if people think the cheapest of the 3 is a G3 and compare it with the prices of G3 bats from other brands
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2020, 12:36:44 PM »
The masuri ton trade price Doubled last year. Doubled.

SS trade price direct for any grade2 and above is extremely high as well.
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2020, 01:48:16 PM »
Quote from: jonny77 on November 03, 2020, 10:34:24 AM
Looks that way. You'd save a Ton by just buying an SS!

C-line (presuming its G3?) is listed at £320 on their site. I could almost make up two custom grade 3s for that money.

Ive messaged you regarding a bat @jonny77
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Re: Masuri / Ton grading?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2020, 02:30:32 PM »
So... Grading is an interesting one. Very opaque, and the G1-4 industry standard is not in line with the Wright's pricelist (or at least how it stood 7-8 years ago). There were around 22 grades back then. I suppose that makes sense, there are bat grades. Then there are willow grades, and many of the lower grades are suitable for Junior bats only. But it's this which creates the confusion in how they're marketed when sold as bats.

On the subject of G1, there was a concept of a G1 Special. This was often called G1+ by manufacturers. G1 specials made up 5% of all G1 wood.

Back to the core question of production, 8 years ago, G1-3 made up about 36% of cricket bat willow. Grade 4 improved (G4+) down to Y12 made up the remaining 64%.

I imagine a percentage of willow doesn't even make it into cleft form so it's not unreasonable that 85% of world's willow is not G1-3/.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 02:34:42 PM by Tom »
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