Topic: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan (Read 35200 times)

Buzz · « **Reply #165 on:** May 19, 2019, 04:53:57 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on May 19, 2019, 02:35:10 PM

Drop woakes...

smilley792 · « **Reply #166 on:** May 19, 2019, 04:58:16 PM »

And five for Chris woakes!!

#dropwoakes

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #167 on:** May 19, 2019, 04:59:31 PM »

Do people still want to drop Woakes from the World Cup squad?

mr_reagan · « **Reply #168 on:** May 19, 2019, 05:30:31 PM »

Easy enough for England, Wiley looked like he was about to blow a gasket at the end though, dont think he liked the tailenders tonking him about the park

ppccopener · « **Reply #169 on:** May 19, 2019, 06:35:18 PM »

Quote from: mr_reagan on May 19, 2019, 05:30:31 PM

Easy enough for England, Wiley looked like he was about to blow a gasket at the end though, dont think he liked the tailenders tonking him about the park

Maybe that's because the press have the final 11 as a shoot out between him and Curran, with Vince in Hales old spot as spare baseman...

I think they have that right myself. I'd like to know a bit more thou about the value of Mo Ali.love him to bits as a player but sometimes wonder why he is a bolt on certainty.

Mpt7 · « **Reply #170 on:** May 19, 2019, 07:04:02 PM »

Spinner who whacks it - no one else is really close to his ability in that role.

smilley792 · « **Reply #171 on:** May 19, 2019, 07:29:16 PM »

We win another game.... but the guy mentioned to be drop yesterday top scored.
Who can we think to drop after this win??

Moeen Ali, hasn�t really done that�s well with bat this series, but he�s just come off an ipl where despite being mucked about by his skipper, was probably Bangalore�s best player over the tournament.
He even out hit kohli and abv on occasions.

Also today, he bowled all ten, and had a better economy than Rashid, Curran and stokes.

six and out · « **Reply #172 on:** May 19, 2019, 07:32:29 PM »

I really do question whether Denly should be there and it was interesting that in the match preview today they asked, Hussain, Atherton and Bumble what their squad would be and they all had Dawson in instead of Denly.

Of the seamers -
Atherton dropped Willey
Nasser and Bumble dropped Wood

Manormanic · « **Reply #173 on:** May 20, 2019, 07:43:12 AM »

Decision time, isn't it?

I think our best side is probably:

Roy
Bairstow (w)
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Archer
Rashid
Plus One

So five spots left, theoretically for a back up batsman, back up spinner and three quicks. In the frame we appear to have Vince, Denly, Dawson, Curran, Plunkett, Willey and Wood. Personally, I reckon Vince and Curran have nailed down their places, but from there it is anyone's guess.

Buzz · « **Reply #174 on:** May 20, 2019, 07:47:07 AM »

I am leaving out Wood and telling him to play red ball cricket ready for the Ashes.
I am also leaving out Denly and having Dawson in the squad.
I wouldn't have Vince either, but there isn't a like for like experienced replacement so he is in.

@Manormanic Jos is the Keeper, not YJB...!

petehosk · « **Reply #175 on:** May 20, 2019, 08:07:08 AM »

There are 2 options to the framework of the side - 3 sections!

Section 1 - 7 spaces: Top 6 batsment (plus spare makes 7)
Section 2 - 3 spaces: Spin section
Section 3 - 5 spaces: Pace section

So section 1 must have 1 spare due to the long and punishing schedule! Note than Ali could in theory slip into this section in an emergency!
Section 2 should have Ali and Rashid plus a spare in a perfect World although spare spinner is perhaps not as critical as a spare top order batsmen.
Section 3 is the most difficult as there are 6 bowlers trying to fit into 5 probable spaced!

Section 1 is probably the easiest to predict!
Roy / Baistow / Root / Morgan / Buttler / Stokes / Vince

Section 2 is easy for 2 of the 3 spaces
Rashid / Ali / Denly or Dawson
For the record, I would take Dawson!
Denly hasn't shown anything with the bat or ball!
Dawson is in superb form and also offes Left arm variation. He is taking tons of wickets in Div 1 and has hit some form with the bat too, although batting is less important!

Section 3 is the toughie!!
Woakes / Archer / Curran

Then 2 from..
Wood
Plunkett
Willey

I do think Wood is quality when he is fit. So for me it would be a choice between Willey and Plunkett for the 5th place.

There is of course 1 way to fit all the pace bowlers in.
That is to only have 2 spinners with no real spare. Root is a decent backup and I think offers a comparible spin option to Denly!
So if there were 7 in the batting section and 2 spinners. That would leave 6 places available for the pace section! IMO that would leave the squad unbalanced, but I am sure they are looking at all options!
Plus in the later knockout stages of the WC, the pitches are likely to be a little more worn and less green (assuming we get some warming, sunnier weather soon!!) and therefore the 3rd spinner in section 2 would probably be useful!

petehosk · « **Reply #176 on:** May 20, 2019, 08:12:23 AM »

As it is far too late to try out any other top order batsmen, my 15 would the following:

Roy
Bairstow (backup keeper)
Root
Morgan
Buttler (Keeper)
Stokes
Vince
Rashid
Ali
Dawson
Woakes
Archer
Curran
Wood
Willey

Initial starting XI
Roy
Bairstow
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Curran
Archer
Rashid

edge · « **Reply #177 on:** May 20, 2019, 12:17:35 PM »

Since Archer came in the last seam spot has always been down to Curran vs Willey for me, the case for Woakes/Plunkett/Wood was always much stronger. Would have gone for Willey previously but Curran has done a bit too well in this series to leave him out.

If you don't pick Vince at this point, who do you pick? Noone else to choose from who's played more than a couple of games. I'd probably prefer Malan, but he's played one ODI and didn't get any. Personally I'd consider going on a different strategy and picking Foakes, but that's probably unrealistic.

Denly hasn't done enough for me so the Moeen Ali understudy spot would go to Dawson, or if I'd had a few beers before the selection meeting, Samit Patel.

six and out · « **Reply #178 on:** May 20, 2019, 12:48:32 PM »

Quote from: petehosk on May 20, 2019, 08:12:23 AM

As it is far too late to try out any other top order batsmen, my 15 would the following:

Roy
Bairstow (backup keeper)
Root
Morgan
Buttler (Keeper)
Stokes
Vince
Rashid
Ali
Dawson
Woakes
Archer
Curran
Wood
Willey

Initial starting XI
Roy
Bairstow
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Curran
Archer
Rashid

Yep bang on Pete, this is exactly how i have it as well.

However, i have a feeling it will be Willey who gets the chop (sounds painful

) and they will stick with Denly as he is Smith's pet project.

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