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[uknsaunders]

playing bounce can be very easy on slower decks. Once the batsman works out you get a bit of bounce he's likely to plonk himself on the back foot and look to cut/pull from a goodish length. Played against a few bounce spinners particularly indoors on matting and it does drive them mad when you pick them off a apparently good length. They end up bowling too full and getting driven.

Best of both worlds is to understand what you are actually doing with the ball and make subtle adjustments so not every ball kicks up. As a variation, lowering the arm or pushing it through quicker can help keep the batsman honest. Ideally imparting more side spin would be a real benefit.

[Buzz]

the best spinners I have faced get dip - so you think you are going to get a nice half volley and and instead the ball is on a length... typically dip also comes with drift - which are both created by lots of revs on the ball.

I have always felt that if you get dip the way the ball "drops" increases the bounce - although that may just be the topspin on the ball causing it to rush on to the batsman

[Kulli]

the best spinners I have faced get dip - so you think you are going to get a nice half volley and and instead the ball is on a length... typically dip also comes with drift - which are both created by lots of revs on the ball.

I have always felt that if you get dip the way the ball "drops" increases the bounce - although that may just be the topspin on the ball causing it to rush on to the batsman

I think the bounce also feels higher because the ball pitches shorter than you anticipate.