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Ciaran

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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2013, 11:40:23 PM »

So we want the IPL to be the guideline for rulings around the world do we? I'd much rather the BBL did their own investigation upon recieving a report from the umpires

Or even better - the ICC investigated him

I couldn't agree more, how hasn't it been brought up by the ICC? I actually wasn't aware individual leagues could ban players bowling I thought it was all ICC
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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 11:45:52 PM »

The IPL make their own rules up

I'm sure Samuels has been tested once before by the ICC, not sure of the outcome

The problem with testing after the event is that players can adapt their action and not bowl as they would in a match. Tests don't allow for this. To the naked eye you would say his faster ball is a throw no doubts about it

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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 09:38:29 AM »

The IPL make their own rules up

I'm sure Samuels has been tested once before by the ICC, not sure of the outcome

The problem with testing after the event is that players can adapt their action and not bowl as they would in a match. Tests don't allow for this. To the naked eye you would say his faster ball is a throw no doubts about it

I think samuels had a topspinner or something that he is banned from bowling, as it was a chuck.

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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 05:10:25 PM »

Has anyone ever seen him bowl such in international games? I don't remember seeing him, perhaps ICC hasn't taken any action as he never did it in international games..
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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 05:46:57 PM »

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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 05:53:30 PM »

Some might not like my opinion but I believe once a cheater, always a cheater...its the easy option, why try and do it the right way when you can do it the easy way and keep getting wickets which will then get you more contracts and hence more money......I also don't understand why something has not been done about his action...but i think umpires need to report the action before ICC could do anything, which i don't know if it has been....
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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2013, 02:09:22 PM »

Has anyone ever seen him bowl such in international games? I don't remember seeing him, perhaps ICC hasn't taken any action as he never did it in international games..

He was in-fact reported by umpires Aleem Dar and Simon Taufel, in a Test Match in 2008, but was cleared by ICC

http://blogs.bettor.com/Marlon-Samuels-suspected-bowling-action-cleared-Cricket-News-Update-a100764

Apparently he was banned from playing International Cricket after he was found guilty of transferring match-related information in 2008.
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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2013, 02:18:38 PM »

It's obvious he does chuck. But what's stopping a player chuck in matches, but when it comes to ICC "testing", bowling with a straight arm.


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Re: Samuels a Chucker?
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2013, 03:27:49 PM »

It's obvious he does chuck. But what's stopping a player chuck in matches, but when it comes to ICC "testing", bowling with a straight arm.

Actually if you read how they test players, and if i remember correctly, they will review the footage of the match/ball where you were called for chucking and then ask you bowl a ball that behave similarly and at same speeds...if you do that and you chuck then they ban that part otherwise you are cleared...there have been cases where a bowler has not been able to replicate what they did in a match while keeping their arm straight or within 15 degrees and in that instance that particular delivery is banned...

he was banned for dealing with indian bookies for 2 yrs i think...
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