Topic: Can you test whether it's English or Kashmir willow? (Read 20135 times)

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2013, 12:48:32 PM »

Quote from: joeylough on January 14, 2013, 12:44:42 PM

is that a vineyard. As a yard over here is a bit like coronation street.

Haha if you are in the city its small, but i moved in Oct to a new house thats a little outside and comes with a big yard, I needed that so I could let my son run around and have fun as well as build a pitch/net for when he gets older

....was really trying to convince my wife to move a little further away as there was a house with 3 acres of landscaped & fenced etc etc.. but was too far for here liking...

Ryan · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2013, 08:07:01 PM »

Quote from: tusharsehgal on January 14, 2013, 12:38:41 PM

Its always sodden I am right close to the ocean...Yard is long enogh to have two back to back cricket pithces...plus a little trial wouldn't/shouldn't hurt!!

Salt water would kill them wouldn't it?

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2013, 11:40:57 PM »

Quote from: fletcheruk on January 14, 2013, 08:07:01 PM

Salt water would kill them wouldn't it?

Not planting them in the ocean mate

...i am very close like few 100 meters... and the soil water level is fairly high...

Hammer Cricket · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2013, 11:44:13 PM »

Quote from: tusharsehgal on January 14, 2013, 12:11:08 PM

Where can I buy the "seed" for english willow to be shipped here(Canada)?? I have a nice enough yard that I could plant 4-5 and would really like to try it

Legendary...thats awesome Tush..

Blazer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 15, 2013, 01:04:41 AM »

Wait !. There is a new variant of willow

. Punjab Willow !!!
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-12-10/chandigarh/35725364_1_willow-andaman-and-nicobar-jalandhar

Number4 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 15, 2013, 05:52:46 AM »

Quote from: alba caerulea on January 14, 2013, 01:15:41 PM

They are different trees

English Willow

Family : Salicaceae
Genus : Salix
Species : Alba
Variety : caerulea

Kashmir Willow

Family : Salicaceae
Genus : Salix
Species : Alba
Variety : Fragilii

Not 100% sold on this... Only thing I can find on this variety is called crack willow or brittle willow due to it easily susceptible cracking or breaking in wind, ice and snowy conditions and is grown as an ornamental tree.

Not doubting your knowledge just can't find any info to confirm this.

norbs · « **Reply #21 on:** January 15, 2013, 01:27:41 PM »

hmmmm maybe some EWNI are Fraglii then and therefore the myth of them being heavy... The main reason Salix Fragilis isnt used here.

Actually EWNI must be alba and Kashmir willow maybe a mix.... I'm getting confused myself now!!!!

tim2000s · « **Reply #22 on:** January 15, 2013, 01:31:43 PM »

Quote from: norbs on January 15, 2013, 01:27:41 PM

hmmmm maybe some EWNI are Fraglii then and therefore the myth of them being heavy... The main reason Salix Fragilis isnt used here.

Actually EWNI must be alba and Kashmir willow maybe a mix.... I'm getting confused myself now!!!!

I'm pretty sure that Kashmir isn't 100% Fragilis - precisely due to the issues of getting a usable cleft out of it. Wouldn't be a surprise if it was a cross though.

norbs · « **Reply #23 on:** January 15, 2013, 01:36:06 PM »

Quote from: tim2000s on January 15, 2013, 01:31:43 PM

I'm pretty sure that Kashmir isn't 100% Fragilis - precisely due to the issues of getting a usable cleft out of it. Wouldn't be a surprise if it was a cross though.

Also willow in India could end up in a fruit crate they dont [or didn't] have specialist bat willow merchants for there willow...

joeljonno · « **Reply #24 on:** January 15, 2013, 09:05:19 PM »

Quote from: alba caerulea on January 15, 2013, 01:53:19 PM

The answer to the original question - If you want to be sure you are buying English willow buy from a reputable source! If you are paying �25 for a brand new bat from EBay in all likelihood it is Kashmir

It was off a mate who didn't want it. Fake stickers and the like, so would probably agree that it would seem to be Kashmir, however I want to be certain as I might try to sell it on now I have taken the decals off.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #25 on:** January 15, 2013, 09:12:36 PM »

I got a bat from ebay many moons ago that i am 99% sure is kashmir. It was advertised as low grade EW

As others have said the grains are not clear and the wood is noticeably harder to the touch and slightly darker. It also picks up like a telegraph pole

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