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Hitting the ball twice rule [LAW!!]
« on: November 28, 2013, 10:22:12 AM »

I just wanted to get some clarification on this;

Last season I was playing and a member of the opposition hit the ball(once bowled) once, then again - however I cannot remember if they ran from it or where exactly the ball was when the batsman deliberately hit it for the second time with his bat.

The umpire wasn't 100% on the ruling and the batsman stayed in and went on to score a few runs in the end towards the back end of the innings. However what I had read about it, was that if the batsman hit the ball twice with his bat, then the fielding team could appeal and therefore the batsman would be out? Obviously we were not happy with the decision that was made at the time as there was a lot of indecision.

However, just watching the Scotland Vs Netherlands game on SS3 and Machan cut the ball, got a bottom edge which the ball hit the ground popped up above his head and was going fairly near to his stumps when coming vertically back down. He used the back of his bat to tap the ball back to the bowler - which the commentator(Paul Allot I think it was) said that because he was protecting his stumps with the second hit - then that's the reason why he wasn't out.

I assume that's the correct rule? I mainly assumed that it was unsporting for the fielding team to appeal, or at least have a 'warning' similar to a when the batsman is backing up.

However it seems that there is a big grey area in 'protecting your stumps' - but I assume as long as it goes down as a dot ball it doesn't really matter. What happens if the ball is struck in force(on the second shot) and say a boundary was scored? Would that be called a dead ball?
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2013, 10:28:33 AM »

it is a law, not a rule

in the case you outline above the decision should be not out (he was protecting his wicket) and dead ball - no runs.

In this case Law 34.
1. Out Hit the ball twice

(a) The striker is out Hit the ball twice if, while the ball is in play, it strikes any part of his person or is struck by his bat and, before the ball has been touched by a fielder, he wilfully strikes it again with his bat or person, other than a hand not holding the bat, except for the sole purpose of guarding his wicket. See 3 below and Laws 33 (Handled the ball) and 37 (Obstructing the field).

(b) For the purpose of this Law ‘struck’ or ‘strike’ shall include contact with the person of the striker.

2. Not out Hit the ball twice

Notwithstanding 1(a) above, the striker will not be out under this Law if,

(i) he strikes the ball a second or subsequent time in order to return the ball to any fielder. Note, however, the provisions of Law 37.4 (Returning the ball to a fielder).

(ii) he wilfully strikes the ball after it has touched a fielder. Note, however the provisions of Law 37.1 (Out Obstructing the field).

3. Ball lawfully struck more than once

Solely in order to guard his wicket and before the ball has been touched by a fielder, the striker may lawfully strike the ball a second or subsequent time with his bat, or with any part of his person other than a hand not holding the bat.
Notwithstanding this provision, he may not prevent the ball from being caught by striking the ball more than once in defence of his wicket. See Law 37.3 (Obstructing a ball from being caught).

4. Runs scored from ball lawfully struck more than once

When the ball is lawfully struck more than once, as permitted in 3 above, only the first strike is to be considered in determining what runs may be scored.

(a) If on the first strike the umpire is satisfied that   

(i) the ball first struck the bat
    or  (ii) the striker attempted to hit the ball with his bat
    or (iii) the striker attempted to avoid being hit by the ball
the batting side shall not be credited with any runs but any penalties that may be applicable shall stand except that a penalty under Law 41.3 (Protective helmets belonging to the fielding side) is not to be awarded.

(b) If the umpire considers that on the first strike none of the conditions in (a) has been met, then no runs or penalties will be credited to the batting side other than the one run penalty for a No ball if applicable.

5. No runs permitted from ball lawfully struck more than once – action by the umpire

(a) If no run is attempted but the ball reaches the boundary the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball and disallow the boundary.

(b) If the batsmen run, and   

(i) neither batsman is dismissed and the ball does not become dead for any other reason, the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as one run is completed or the ball reaches the boundary.  The run or boundary shall be disallowed.  The batsmen shall be returned to their original ends.   

(ii) a batsman is dismissed or for any other reason the ball becomes dead before one run is completed or the ball reaches the boundary, all the provisions of the Laws will apply except that the batting side shall not be credited with any runs, except the penalties permitted under 4(a) or 4(b) above as appropriate.

6. Bowler does not get credit
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 10:29:23 AM »

Protecting your stumps is fine, i.e tapping it away, what you obviously cant do is smash it away from the stumps and then run!

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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 10:31:22 AM »

i think hitting it twice would only be out if it was classed as being obstruction.

if oyu protect your stumps and accidentely smack it for 6 then it would be a dead ball?
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 10:44:55 AM »

i think hitting it twice would only be out if it was classed as being obstruction.

if oyu protect your stumps and accidentely smack it for 6 then it would be a dead ball?
How do you accidentally smack it for 6??  ???
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 10:49:40 AM »

i think hitting it twice would only be out if it was classed as being obstruction.

if oyu protect your stumps and accidentely smack it for 6 then it would be a dead ball?

Read the above Law 34 - if you are protecting your stumps the ball becomes "dead" and you cannot score a run.
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 11:12:33 AM »

How do you accidentally smack it for 6??  ???

in the heat of the moment you just swing your bat and middle it for 6
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Re: Hitting the ball twice rule [LAW!!]
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 01:12:38 PM »

I think the most important word is wilfully hitting the ball.

I have seen some cases where the batsman has gone for a pull, hit ball with gloves and then with the toe end of the bat all in one swing. That would be not out even though ball has been hit twice, similarly going for the sweep ball hits the pads/gloves and then the bat.

Protecting your stumps is a dead ball
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