Topic: Indian vs english BATS...THE REAL DIFFERENCE?? (Read 17741 times)

amritpremi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 08, 2013, 03:13:59 PM »

If somebody is carrying the bat in his/her luggage it shouldn't be charged as it would be a personal item. Few of my mates brought complete kits from India as their luggage, it shouldn't be drilled (though maybe inspected). In rare cases, if custom officials ask for cost of the bat, it can be mentioned as very low.

Dan W · « **Reply #31 on:** October 08, 2013, 04:48:28 PM »

Quote from: himanshuvohra on October 08, 2013, 03:13:45 PM

You have a valid point bud, but what i am talking about is 350 GBP is a big amount for me as it is close to 35000 rupees which is still a huge sum in India...
and the point is i have hardly seen any sponsor quoting 120 GBP for a bat....

No one needs to spend 350 on a bat - it's a silly comparison.

The same networks required in India to acquire these 'pro level' sticks at �120 would get you a similar bat with the same level of contacts over here for a similar price. Most of the stories I hear of the super SS bats are bought back from people who have 'uncles' that work in the factory or know Mr Ihsan himself.

Really this is just plain old nationalism BS. A good bat can be found from anywhere. As mentioned before, I'm a lot more comfortable with the quality control from UK manufacturers. Plus the thought of growing something here, sending it all the way over 'there', (paying the actual shaver a pittance) then sending it all the way back, seems quite bonkers!

Finally, and I guess the UK companies may agree here, but the prices from the small shaver scene is a fair price - you'll hear of few that retire millionaires. Scarcity off the willow, risk of the process not being the premium bat it should be, and not to mention man hours required to produce the end product come close to justifying the price. And I'm happier knowing I'm supporting the UK industry.

sgcricket · « **Reply #32 on:** October 09, 2013, 02:11:17 AM »

everyone has an inherent bias. and on this forum, the majority of members are from UK, so honestly that should answer your question.
since every bat is unique and different, there is no way to gauge "value for money" (in case of cars, you can have standardised tests).

imperivm · « **Reply #33 on:** January 26, 2014, 06:26:47 AM »

Quote from: Dan W on October 08, 2013, 04:48:28 PM

No one needs to spend 350 on a bat - it's a silly comparison.

The same networks required in India to acquire these 'pro level' sticks at �120 would get you a similar bat with the same level of contacts over here for a similar price. Most of the stories I hear of the super SS bats are bought back from people who have 'uncles' that work in the factory or know Mr Ihsan himself.

Really this is just plain old nationalism BS. A good bat can be found from anywhere. As mentioned before, I'm a lot more comfortable with the quality control from UK manufacturers. Plus the thought of growing something here, sending it all the way over 'there', (paying the actual shaver a pittance) then sending it all the way back, seems quite bonkers!

Finally, and I guess the UK companies may agree here, but the prices from the small shaver scene is a fair price - you'll hear of few that retire millionaires. Scarcity off the willow, risk of the process not being the premium bat it should be, and not to mention man hours required to produce the end product come close to justifying the price. And I'm happier knowing I'm supporting the UK industry.

There's an obvious and amusing contracting claim to your post. Asian bats have their pros and cons to English bats but it's very clear that Asian bats are a lot cheaper. You can import an Asian bat that will cost �150 or less and the English one will be �250+ for its equivalent. Yes there are differences, I've owned both English and Asian bats but these days I prefer Asian ones because English bats cost far more than they used to. Even with the forum bat makers undercuting the big English makers there is a big difference in price.

The Palmist · « **Reply #34 on:** January 26, 2014, 09:50:32 AM »

Quote from: Johng on October 08, 2013, 11:47:59 AM

TON or SS LE is the best value bat you will buy anywhere period

The term LE has become a joke in recent times tbh. Nice bats I agree but the term LE is misleading. I can't say quality is much different but Indian bats have very poor resale value. For example I paid 135 for my GM 808 few years ago and it still fetched me 80 after a few seasons use whereas my SS Ton LE sold for only 90 and it was as new (cost me 160).
You do need a bit of luck and contacts when buying in India not just to save money but most importantly to ensure you are getting a genuine product. Even the biggest shops sell fake stickered bats so it is hard to trust them.
I have also found SG to be much better value and long lasting.

Wickets-then-runs · « **Reply #35 on:** January 26, 2014, 10:16:29 AM »

The term LE obviously means Limited Edition and the SS LE is a limited edition bat! They only make 10,000 per year!

Alvaro · « **Reply #36 on:** January 26, 2014, 10:40:09 AM »

The stickers are often different

smilley792 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 26, 2014, 11:21:06 AM »

Quote from: Wickets-then-runs on January 26, 2014, 10:16:29 AM

The term LE obviously means Limited Edition and the SS LE is a limited edition bat! They only make 10,000 per year!

It's like the limited edition corsa, of which they make and sell more than standard corsas........

procricket · « **Reply #38 on:** January 26, 2014, 01:29:38 PM »

To throw a spanner in the works and i do support Uk made bats Pakistan i think have slightly better bats than India and alot better value.

Uk bats are priced as such by a few factors like overheads and profit margins.

Indian made bats are getting more expensive at a individual and trade level and the quality like England is varible and the really cheap bats are either samples and the after care if bought direct from India for cheaper it kind of sold as seen and any issues it is kind of tuff.

Pakistan bats offer good value if there sought from a Uk source you pay higher yet get the guarantees and support you have a issue.
If you buy direct once again they will be cheaper but your run the same risk.

I have had many bats from all the countries and they have been all good but if you have not got loads of money like me to be throwing at bats then i possibly would go for the guarantee and after-sales care but you do actually pay for that care bit like insurance..

procricket · « **Reply #39 on:** January 26, 2014, 03:13:36 PM »

Quote from: Wickets-then-runs on January 26, 2014, 10:16:29 AM

The term LE obviously means Limited Edition and the SS LE is a limited edition bat! They only make 10,000 per year!

What and GM and GN do not do the same.....

The Palmist · « **Reply #40 on:** January 26, 2014, 03:48:32 PM »

Quote from: procricket on January 26, 2014, 01:29:38 PM

To throw a spanner in the works and i do support Uk made bats Pakistan i think have slightly better bats than India and alot better value.

Uk bats are priced as such by a few factors like overheads and profit margins.

Indian made bats are getting more expensive at a individual and trade level and the quality like England is varible and the really cheap bats are either samples and the after care if bought direct from India for cheaper it kind of sold as seen and any issues it is kind of tuff.

Pakistan bats offer good value if there sought from a Uk source you pay higher yet get the guarantees and support you have a issue.
If you buy direct once again they will be cheaper but your run the same risk.

I have had many bats from all the countries and they have been all good but if you have not got loads of money like me to be throwing at bats then i possibly would go for the guarantee and after-sales care but you do actually pay for that care bit like insurance..

Pakistani market is very similar. If you can source a genuine then good else it too is full of fakes and tats. If you are buying from a reputable UK source then their after care and guarantee etc. should be the same really whether you buy a CA or SS.

procricket · « **Reply #41 on:** January 26, 2014, 03:59:35 PM »

Yes that's was what I was trying to say.

It is about source I know a few in India and know a man who can get great bats in Pakistan as well as other areas.

For me it about trust and if your after a bargain asking the right people

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