ECB where has the Sky Money gone? - The Current State of Club Cricket
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Re: ECB where has the Sky Money gone?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2014, 12:40:26 PM »

Clubmark isn't about money. We play in a park and don't have our own clubhouse but have Clubmark.
Funding is an issue, there are huge sums of money being spent in our borough on two teams because they have influential pressure groups behind them. Neither have clubmark and both would fail any sort of inclusivity and diversity criteria that the ECB impose on the rest of us. But the ECB/MCB wish to hold up a political banner saying how much they do for certain groups. Try getting funding in London if its not for Women s cricket, disabled cricket or south asian cricket projects and you can go whistle. That isn't a secret its written down on all the funding streams literature. The people who in the majority fund cricket get bugger all back

Clubmark does help, try getting a grant without it! That said, you are absolutely correct and too much is given to special cases and not enough to fund the nuts and bolts of grassroots cricket.
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Re: ECB where has the Sky Money gone?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2014, 01:13:18 PM »

Clubmark isn't about money. We play in a park and don't have our own clubhouse but have Clubmark.
Funding is an issue, there are huge sums of money being spent in our borough on two teams because they have influential pressure groups behind them. Neither have clubmark and both would fail any sort of inclusivity and diversity criteria that the ECB impose on the rest of us. But the ECB/MCB wish to hold up a political banner saying how much they do for certain groups. Try getting funding in London if its not for Women s cricket, disabled cricket or south asian cricket projects and you can go whistle. That isn't a secret its written down on all the funding streams literature. The people who in the majority fund cricket get ******** all back

We are having exactly the same problem in East London - we are desperatly trying to get money for artifical nets. We are being turned down for everything. I dont beleive there are any artifical prcatice faciltiies in our borough, we are more than willing to let the communnity use them but still no joy.
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Re: ECB where has the Sky Money gone? - The Current State of Club Cricket
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2014, 04:47:26 PM »

Clubmark in my opinion doesn't work. I can't see how in reality it pushes clubs to provide anything extra that they wouldn't provide anyway. All it does is gives clubs (usually the big clubs but as we know not all) easier access to funding which in turn just makes them bigger and so able to horde more kids and pay more players. It's these clubs that are in a small way also to blame because they are only interested in their own survival and not what's best for players/the game. As long as they win their division, have £££ to spend on a overseas/pro/coach they think they are awesome.

Anyway, we all know it's not one thing that's the problem, it's literally the whole set up and the lifestyle that we now promote that is causing it. To change you would need to change so much before it would have any real effects, and that change can't/won't happen because there isn't enough cash up front to do it, not enough desire by the power clubs to lose their hold on the top leagues etc etc.

What is better for the game.... a few 'big' clubs or lots of smaller clubs??? I'd say lots of smaller ones will have MORE people playing which at the end of the day is the main thing that will keep the game alive.. dave who is paid or who plays in the top few divisions of cricket tbh is irrelevant as they'll play no matter what.
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Re: ECB where has the Sky Money gone? - The Current State of Club Cricket
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2014, 09:45:32 PM »

I returned to the game a couple of years ago, after not playing since the early nineties.
In my hazy memory, I can't remember any club throughout the Bristol leagues with more than 3 sides. Now there are a number of "super clubs" with  4,5,6 sides. I can't see how this can be healthy for village cricket.
That, and the lack of any cricket on free to air tv, very little cricket being played in schools,football impinging on the cricket season,x box generation etc etc.
We play in the 4th div and have lost one club at the end of the season, and are likely to be loosing another.

A very sad state of affairs

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Re: ECB where has the Sky Money gone? - The Current State of Club Cricket
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2014, 09:43:08 PM »

Well the moneys definitely not going into international ticket subsidization... Just check and looking at spending on average £120 for an adult and junior ticket for the ashes at the oval next year!
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