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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2015, 12:48:20 AM »

Whether you're 18 or 80 Amir committed a crime, he should get punished eg life ban.

If I walked down the road and killed someone, the judge wouldn't go 'oh I'll let you off because you're X years old'.

No but the judge would take into account your age and influences you may have had as a factor.
It's the same with Ched Evans, just let them play.
PCB (hopefully) don't pick him again for political reasons with ECB and BCCI.   
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2015, 03:11:36 AM »

If he served a punishment meted out by a law/governing body he's free to do whatever he wants. If he still has talent PCB can pick him. This is one off a case where he was young and could come back after the ban as he is still not too old. For most of them who would serve the ban would have their career finished in 5 years. Anybody who serves their sentence are allowed to come back to society and try to make a life if they still can (though going gets really tough and rightly so).
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2015, 07:35:36 AM »

Who cares, icc is a weak organisation as compared to football organisation,  there are still corrupt matches going on the planet but cant do a jack with them, PLZ change this phrase " Cricket is a gentleman game " .
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2015, 08:14:28 AM »

Maybe we over pay?!?!?

Their living costs are completely different, so you can't really compare.

Knowing and being acquaintances with several current and former Pakistani internationals through family, I reckon I can say with relative confidence that they live very similarly to an average income earner here in Australia. I'm not going to speculate as to wages but living style is similar, maybe a little worse off given the situation of living in a third world country with terrible crime rates and whatnot.

Amir was born into and has seen poverty that the vast majority of us Westerners could not even start to imagine. It's very easy to understand how an impressionable, wide eyed 18 year old could get caught up in all of this. As for his criminal history and the sentence and return, he shouldn't be given easy treatment because he's a sportsman but then again he should be allowed back as normal, as normally as someone returning from injury or not doing their homework, in Australia's case :P . On top of the fact that he admitted his mistake and plead guilty as opposed to the other two.
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2015, 08:22:00 AM »

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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2015, 08:31:19 AM »

Reading the story the pcb want him back for domestic cricket as he cannot play internationals till end of his ban in sept

But there season finishes soon so his representatives will look for him to play county cricket in England

Be a brave county who takes him on but I do believe in rehabilitation of not what is the point in sentences just give life sentences for every crime

With the uk visa he will be fine next year as 5 years has passed since sentencing so no exclusion as less than 12 months served in prison
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2015, 09:53:49 AM »

There's is a spanner in the works for all 3 of them bans and convictions and it's all thanks to ndubz!! Lol.


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Meanwhile, the Crown Prosecution Service in the United Kingdom is reviewing the convictions  of all three Pakistan Test cricketers.

They were convicted at Southwark Crown Court on evidence given by journalist Mazher Mahmood, otherwise known as the 'Fake Sheikh'.

The cases against a number of footballers investigated over alleged match-fixing were dropped after doubts were raised about testimony given by Mahmood.

Last July a case against singer and TV star Tulisa Contostavlos collapsed when the judge thought prosecution witness Mahmood had lied in giving evidence.

So amusingly, despite them all admitting there guilty. There could be no actual convictions on the record for this crime.

Weather that changes the ice stance or not is a different matter.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 09:58:03 AM by smilley792 »
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2015, 10:39:20 AM »

So amusingly, despite them all admitting there guilty. There could be no actual convictions on the record for this crime.

That really is odd isn't it? I believe in Tulisa's case one of her associates pleaded guilty to supplying drugs (or something like that) and still was let off due to the evidence from the fake sheikh. From watching the panorama thing on him i find it hard anyone would ever fall for it, he's got a brummie accent. Not sure how many sheikhs are from Birmingham  ???
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2015, 10:57:14 AM »

I'm glad he's back, he was an unreal talent and I feel that he would definitely have been leaned on. You have to remember how corrupt and bias the PCB is. You see and hear of many great talents who never get near the subcontinent international sides due to politics etc, and this kids skipper was telling him bowl no balls. He may well have been happy to take the money but I'm sure he was being complicit in order to ensure his continuing place in the side.

I also believe in the rehabilitation system. If we as people refuse criminals a second chance, then why do we even bother with incarceration? Why not just take them out the back of the court once found guilty and dispatch them? Yes, I also believe Ched Evans should be allowed to continue his football career.
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Re: The match fixer's back...
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2015, 10:58:27 AM »

That really is odd isn't it? I believe in Tulisa's case one of her associates pleaded guilty to supplying drugs (or something like that) and still was let off due to the evidence from the fake sheikh. From watching the panorama thing on him i find it hard anyone would ever fall for it, he's got a brummie accent. Not sure how many sheikhs are from Birmingham  ???

Could be lots. Anyone related by any bloodline to any Sheikh is considered to be one, no matter how tenuous the link is.
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