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[Ridenmarke]

The B3 just looks  more or less like an evolution of the chase

[Calzehbhoy]

In my mind it's the batsman not the bat that effects performance.

One of our team used a G&M 404 for 2 years. One of those years he ended up on the AOC team of the year for the amount of runs he scored (2305 in a season). The bat to anybody else that pickedbit up/tried it was an absolute dog, but for him it just worked.

No matter what the bat looks like, size of edges or anything is all irrelevant if the guy holding it doesnt use it properly or what he/she has isn't suitable for their style.

Big bats look impressive and may intimidate a bowler, not sure why though, but it's all about finding a bat which works for you and suits your game.

[Jamesfield]

Well Said!!

[SteffanLangholz]

In my mind it's the batsman not the bat that effects performance.

One of our team used a G&M 404 for 2 years. One of those years he ended up on the AOC team of the year for the amount of runs he scored (2305 in a season). The bat to anybody else that pickedbit up/tried it was an absolute dog, but for him it just worked.

No matter what the bat looks like, size of edges or anything is all irrelevant if the guy holding it doesnt use it properly or what he/she has isn't suitable for their style.

Big bats look impressive and may intimidate a bowler, not sure why though, but it's all about finding a bat which works for you and suits your game.

That's just not the cbf way buddy. Ofc you play better with 10+ straight even grains on a freshly bought bat.. Never go down on gear!

[InternalTraining]

In my mind it's the batsman not the bat that effects performance.

One of our team used a G&M 404 for 2 years. One of those years he ended up on the AOC team of the year for the amount of runs he scored (2305 in a season). The bat to anybody else that pickedbit up/tried it was an absolute dog, but for him it just worked.

No matter what the bat looks like, size of edges or anything is all irrelevant if the guy holding it doesnt use it properly or what he/she has isn't suitable for their style.

Big bats look impressive and may intimidate a bowler, not sure why though, but it's all about finding a bat which works for you and suits your game.

To each their own. I have tried sad bats and balls never went anywhere. Then, I tried a nice bat and a great score resulted in the first game with heaps of boundaries (7 or 8 I think). I never looked back. A friend was looking to unload some "heavy" bats from his kit. Cheap too. I needed a net bat. This monster had a huge bow, big edges with lots of concaving. 2-12. I hadn't used a big edged bat before. My top edges to bouncers were flying to 50 yards for some good runs. At the club level, at least for myself, I want to make the best of my cricket weekend. I know I will not have the power and timing of Amla or ABD. I take whatever aid I can get from a big bat.

[brokenbat]

That's just not the cbf way buddy. Ofc you play better with 10+ straight even grains on a freshly bought bat.. Never go down on gear!

Exactly...and you need a few so you can rotate them (as you would a good pair of shoes).

[smilley792]

It's probably all a placebo ale great. But never under estimate one.


When I have big big bats, b3s, gray nics extremes, kooks biggest kahunas. I've always scored runs and the balls gone miles.

Hence I've used highly concaved planks, or thin edged older bats, it's not gone as far.


The exception is my affinity, it's quite concaved and isn't that big. But I've used 2 affinities before that went miles, and the general consensus is they go.
So when I went out to bat with it I wasn't thinking this is small, I was thinking. This is an Affinty and its gonna fly!!





Never underestimate the placebo the other way. Bowlers and fielders all comment on big batts. It may not effect most but the ones it does. It's gonna help somehow.

I remember when the mongoose first came out and I used it all season midweek. Averaging 75 and a strike rate in the 150s for the season I came out to bat at 4 with the game in the balance.
There skipper shouted. "It that kid with that little bat that goes miles, everyone on the fleece"
We won at a canter just knocking it about.

[mo_town]

Big edges may not matter to players who like to knock it around, but they definitely do to aggressive batsmen. I feel that with thin bats, one really needs to time the ball as well as find the middle to clear the field. But with a big bat, a decently timed shot off the middle will go the distance. Big edges are definitely not just for show, they do make a difference.

[procricket]

Hell Cam your stating the obvious once again. (sorry bit harsh)....

Coverage is something 6 years ago we all talked about good it come around again and although bat sizes have changed coverage has not is all important to club cricketers because we do not hit the ball in the same place all the time.

the 1271 in this thread is the best bat in terms of coverage in a normal sized cleft because it has been calculated to use most of a cleft even though it only has 34mm edges.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23466.0

big edges do align and keep stiffness in the blade but if it concaved then your losing coverage.

the zizi was designed for coverage evenly over a space for a equilateral balanced bat with wood all over shape was not liked but over the next 12 months more shapes will become this.

If you have scalloping/concaving normally it a ploy to keep the weight down but at a cost.

I always have said this and the diagram below will show this


concaved bat profile


coverage (show with paper) i call form bat narrower middle



full profile with edges above 38mm


coverage





It is about getting the bat that suits you 100 per cent and the 1271 is very similar in some ways to the Scat.

It's about allowances and finding what suits but coverage should play a massive part in our bats as we tend to hit the ball all over the place edge plays a part too.

This is my theory anyhow and in the bats i have used have found this

[procricket]

sorry about crude mock up

[WalkingWicket37]

I may have been stating the obvious Dave, but if enough people preach it then others may take notice! 

[procricket]

Haha agreed pal bit harsh but it has always been the way coverage in the weight however there is a cabiat with it all.

Weight

I mean i have used many heavy bats they play better or tend it i personally think it hard to make a bad bat over 2-12 due to wood in the bat but alot of people can not use that weight so the real skill is the lightweight bats where more thought and positioning of the Willow is needed to put in and as wood is a premium big edges are not needed and cause many issues.

Smaller edges will help batmakers as well in terms of getting realist expectations at lower weights

but that's my two pence!!

[ppccopener]

Good stuff guys it may be a bit obvious but it's still a good read

The second bat looks so much better with that profile - more like bats as they used to be shaped for years until heavy concaving came in

[mo_town]

So do big edges matter or not?