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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #450 on: April 03, 2018, 06:39:22 AM »

Funny when you pick a proper spinner he actually gives Root control. Unlike Moeen with his pies

It's almost like it's easier to be economical when the opposition is batting for a draw and a little harder when you've just been bowled out for 58 on the first day.
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« Reply #451 on: April 03, 2018, 06:45:27 AM »

A shambolic test winter overall, then.
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« Reply #452 on: April 03, 2018, 07:21:06 AM »

We haven't won a test match the whole winter. That is ridiculous.
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« Reply #453 on: April 03, 2018, 07:35:47 AM »

We haven't won a test match the whole winter. That is ridiculous.
A whole two winters
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« Reply #454 on: April 03, 2018, 07:57:28 AM »

Bangladesh was last winter, so yeah, one win, a few draws and go knows how many defeats. Can't fault them too much for today's efforts but this series was always an uphill battle after the first innings in Auckland.
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« Reply #455 on: April 03, 2018, 09:17:34 AM »

We haven't won a test match the whole winter. That is ridiculous.

Wenger out!!!

Sorry, I mean

Bayliss out!!
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« Reply #456 on: April 03, 2018, 04:33:38 PM »

It’s sad not to have won any away tests but it’s not a surprise. I am surprised we lost fairly conviningly to NZ in relative home conditions but it happens.

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« Reply #457 on: April 03, 2018, 07:36:15 PM »

Can’t see many changes come the summer really unless Cook decides to retire then an opening slot comes free.

Only other option is Hameed comes in for Cook and he slips to 3 or vice versa and Vince is discarded totally from test cricket.

Ali is a bit of a loss as leach certainly the better bowler but his late order runs have been vital in the past. As with many great teams in all sports and at times out test side with these players has been a great side something has gone wrong now wether that’s the captain not being up to being a leader, the coach impact or whatever that’s the issue for me yes the players carry the can for an awful 18months really but behind the scenes something appears out of sorts
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« Reply #458 on: April 03, 2018, 07:40:56 PM »

Can’t see many changes come the summer really unless Cook decides to retire then an opening slot comes free.

Only other option is Hameed comes in for Cook and he slips to 3 or vice versa and Vince is discarded totally from test cricket.

Ali is a bit of a loss as leach certainly the better bowler but his late order runs have been vital in the past. As with many great teams in all sports and at times out test side with these players has been a great side something has gone wrong now wether that’s the captain not being up to being a leader, the coach impact or whatever that’s the issue for me yes the players carry the can for an awful 18months really but behind the scenes something appears out of sorts

Look back before the last 18 months. The warning signs where there that this group weren’t upto it. Sure there were some good wins but when you look closer at the oppos, wickets played on you see some weak teams and when the batting comes off.. roads ..

That’s always been the problem with this group of players, they are good at beating crap (Aus in 2015 were dire) and also mercurial when tracks are flat and they can tee off
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