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Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« on: October 29, 2018, 08:19:14 AM »
Well the independent review has been completed and results are pretty damming!

Report in full including the recommendations-

https://www.cricketaustralia.com.au/the-ethics-centre-organisational-review-players-pact?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Cricket Australia releases player and independent organisational reviews (1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=20464864&spUserID=NDA5NjA1MDYwNTc5S0&spJobID=1361720220&spReportId=MTM2MTcyMDIyMAS2

Guardian piece on it -

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/29/cricket-australia-arrogant-and-partly-to-blame-for-ball-tampering-report-finds?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 04:57:29 PM »
Not exactly revelatory.  Think it's hard to level culpability at one individual as well as some have, culture of that ilk tends to fester over years and across tenures.

I don't dislike any of the individuals involved, like many seem to, and would regard the punishments meted out as being far greater than those I would expect for such an offence given previous precedence.
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 07:14:00 PM »
And th point of this review is ?? Sum total of f all will change
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 11:19:15 PM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on October 29, 2018, 07:14:00 PM
And th point of this review is ?? Sum total of f all will change

I get the point of the review, you level the blame at a few individuals then claim that you've taken steps to prevent a repeat and you're right nothing will change.  If you point out the endemic nature of the cultural misgivings of an organisation, you forcibly demonstrate a need for change.  The next step is to convince the people that they need that change and all the ramifications that come with it.  Ultimately, CA has to take some of the blame for what happened as they are complicit in the scandal, and accountable for their players.  What this does do, is remove some of the blame from the perpetrators, and paves the way for early reinstatement to the national team.  Such a step was probably deemed necessary as their punishment was undoubtedly excessive given the nature of their misdemeanour.
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2018, 03:18:59 AM »
Quote from: stevat on October 29, 2018, 11:19:15 PM
I get the point of the review, you level the blame at a few individuals then claim that you've taken steps to prevent a repeat and you're right nothing will change.  If you point out the endemic nature of the cultural misgivings of an organisation, you forcibly demonstrate a need for change.  The next step is to convince the people that they need that change and all the ramifications that come with it.  Ultimately, CA has to take some of the blame for what happened as they are complicit in the scandal, and accountable for their players.  What this does do, is remove some of the blame from the perpetrators, and paves the way for early reinstatement to the national team.  Such a step was probably deemed necessary as their punishment was undoubtedly excessive given the nature of their misdemeanour.

The sanctions have not changed. There is no early reinstatement etc with the release of this report.
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2018, 07:04:56 AM »
The australia players association have pushed for it, i see Lehman has also come out this morning and said it should now be reduced. Personally I think that would be wrong. CA have to take some of the blame but those 3 players did this, they weren’t asked to. They attempted to openly cheat, culture review or not that hasn’t changed. I think it would send the wrong message, i do wonder if Australia weren’t getting smashed left right and centre they would be calling for this?
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Re: Review of Cricket Australia etc... the results
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2018, 10:02:34 AM »
If the Report suggests that CA's win at all costs ethos and their cultural issues were a contributing factor in the whole saga and then CA admit to that, then it's only logical the the punishments laid down by CA lose validity to a certain extent. Yes they are grown men who cheated on their own accord, but it's a failure on CA's behalf to endorse an environment where that act is conceivable. CA's punishment was far too hard, and the ICC's far too soft, I think we are probably somewhere in the middle now.
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