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marsbug

Anatomy of a cricket pad
« on: December 29, 2021, 11:11:41 AM »

I have often heard people talking about the different things that go into cricket pads, but have often been curious about how they are put together. So, to take my mind off results in Australia, I thought I'd dissect an old pad to see what's going on inside.

The pads: a very old pair of Slazenger V500 Test. These are probably early to mid 90's. I got a fair few runs in them, so they're pretty nasty and have been sat in a loft for 20 years, and was never going to use them again. Me and my mate spent ages doing car boot sales to save up enough to get the best things we could at the time. We spent a lot of time making our lists of each item to buy, so much in fact that I ended up getting my Romida catalogue laminted and taking it with me everywhere. I even remember getting a free Slazenger cap from a new bat design I sent to them as a kid, but that's another story.



First incision. Pulled back the fabric and we've got common bath sponge material across the knees, and fairly low density foam in the shin and top areas. Nothing too suprising really.


Second incision. Removed the sponge and foam to reveal a bit of high density foam on the inside of the knee (advertised as "Extra Knee Protection", suggesting that the low density stuff is not as good), more low density foam across the knee, and CARDBOARD (!) up and down the shin. Got to admit, that was a bit of a surprise to me.


Third incision. Removed foam and cardboard to expose the cane in the shin area. I knew that they were there as you can see them in the lower parts near the foot, but they are exactly the same as traditional pads, but just turned around so that the flat surface faces forwards.


Fourth incision. More high density foam in front of the cane, which is the first surface of impact I guess.


Fifth incision. Exposed the knee role, which was stuffed full of, I think, wool, although it could be very rough cotton. Got to admit, I didn't hang around too long with it, as it was very fibrous and shedding everywhere. Elsewhere we're back to the PU front surface and the stitch marks.


So there we are. Not many surprises, but thought it'd be worth weighing the individual components too, so people can see where the weight comes from.


Closckwise from top left:
wool (?): 98 g
cardboard: 66 g
High density foam: 93 g
cotton extra bits: 32 g
sponge foam: 14 g
low density foam: 72 g
cane: 106 g
PU fabric and straps: 264 g
TOTAL = 745 g.

I've lost 20 g of extra fluff and bits somwhere, as the pad before was 766 g, but it's not far off being right.

What I'd be interested in finding out from those people that know more, is how pad design on the inside has changed in the last couple of decades. Has much changed at all? I know they're about 100-200 g heavier, but what is that weight coming from? Is the protection noticeably better? For what it's worth, I used to stick an unused Albion armguard up the inside of my leading leg pad after getting whacked there once and really feeling it.
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2021, 12:08:37 PM »

Excellent work! For me, the new technology from pads only really serves to push the price up. Did anyone need gel technology in the knee area? In 20 years of Kent League cricket, I've never heard anyone moaning about pain caused after being hit in the knee roll, or anywhere else on the pads to be honest.

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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2021, 07:30:50 PM »

Excellent work! For me, the new technology from pads only really serves to push the price up. Did anyone need gel technology in the knee area? In 20 years of Kent League cricket, I've never heard anyone moaning about pain caused after being hit in the knee roll, or anywhere else on the pads to be honest.

100%, they get to advertise it as brand new technology, innovative protection etc.
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2021, 08:27:59 PM »

Excellent work! For me, the new technology from pads only really serves to push the price up. Did anyone need gel technology in the knee area? In 20 years of Kent League cricket, I've never heard anyone moaning about pain caused after being hit in the knee roll, or anywhere else on the pads to be honest.

But in the post @marsbug mentioned he had used an arm guard to add protection? I had some pads years ago and could definitely feel it at times when wrapped on the pads by a quick. Haven't had that recently, so this surely indicates modern softs offer better protection? Also, I'd argue they're more comfortable too.

Aged to this most people complain about lack of innovation in cricket gear. So I'd imagine if new things weren't introduced, there'd be people saying new kit wasn't innovative enough.

In terms of cost, things increase. Space Raiders and Freddos used to be 10p! 😆 Shipping for one is a massive factor these days, as are some of the raw materials. Personally i can definitely say i had a lot of input into my softs, which takes time. Add in the material costs, shipping, import duties etc and selling top quality pads for 50 quid isn't do-able.
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2021, 10:13:26 AM »

Of course the cost of everything goes up - but what innovations have improved pads and gloves now say from 10 years ago? The core materials are the same. Essentially is it just that the cost of production has soared, rather than innovation? I just think cricket continues to make itself seem elitist with the cost of everything, especially those new to the game.

To me it's akin to the golf industry and drivers, where the new driver will give you 10 more yards etc - which really isn't the case as there are limits on what the manufacturers can legally do which have been in place quite a while. It's all marketing guff. 






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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2021, 11:02:52 AM »

Of course the cost of everything goes up - but what innovations have improved pads and gloves now say from 10 years ago? The core materials are the same. Essentially is it just that the cost of production has soared, rather than innovation? I just think cricket continues to make itself seem elitist with the cost of everything, especially those new to the game.

To me it's akin to the golf industry and drivers, where the new driver will give you 10 more yards etc - which really isn't the case as there are limits on what the manufacturers can legally do which have been in place quite a while. It's all marketing guff.

I actually think pads and gloves have improved. Materials/foams are better, lighter, yet offer better protection (you don't have to use additional arm guards in good modern pads for example). I can only speak from my experience in having softs manufactured and knowing the costs v sale price. People have indicated previously here that they believed buy in costs of softs were x, when in fact they're much more when factoring everything in. Obviously a brand has to make money, otherwise they don't stay in business and it isn't worth their while. Nobody will make a fortune selling softs unless they're doing huge volumes, there simply aren't huge margins in them. Which i think is kind of what is being insinuated here. Apologies if I've got this wrong. I wasn't selling softs 10 years ago, so can't comment on what went on before, maybe someone else can.

You also have to make a product which is saleable and people expect certain features in softs now. You can still pick up 'cheap' if you want. I've had some cheaper softs as samples I personally wouldn't use, but they are available. They may also at first glance look the same, but from what I've seen often have cheaper components (cheap leather palms, very soft foams, no fibre inserts, cheap/thin PU etc)

As a golfer myself I agree, there is a lot of marketing guff around drivers. However, you hit a Sports Direct Slaz special and a top end driver, the difference is night and day. Although essentialy they look similar, most new drivers make the game much easier agreed are better put together. I've tried to hit very old drivers and it makes the game sooo much more difficult. I struggle to shape shots with my driver, as it just wants to keep everything straight!
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2021, 12:42:42 PM »

Pads have certainly improved in protection since I started playing senior cricket in the 1990s (gloves even more so in my view).

It seems to me that when adjusted for inflation, softs are also cheaper in real terms now than they were 25 years ago
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2021, 06:19:34 PM »

Thank you for such a great read on a topic close to my heart
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2021, 06:33:48 PM »

What a great thread... We just need to get a modern pair and cut them up now...
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2021, 09:25:33 PM »

What a great thread... We just need to get a modern pair and cut them up now...

I think I probably worded it badly in my initial post, so my apologies, but this is essentially what I was wondering about. Rather than if the protection has improved significantly (in my own case I don’t think I face bowlers quick enough anymore to really test it out properly), but looking at the actual changes that have happened.

Now, I don’t want anyone to go and cut up a new pair of pads - my heart would ache! But if anyone knows of anywhere I could look up the components, or schematics, then I’d find it interesting. I guess that perhaps it isn’t widely available due to competition among manufacturers.
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2021, 11:03:59 PM »

What a great thread... We just need to get a modern pair and cut them up now...

Those left handed large GM LE pads are now £24 on Amazon. If there are 20 people prepared to paypal me £1, I'll happily pay the rest, cut them up and provide photo's to conclude this great thread.
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2021, 01:52:44 PM »

What a great thread... We just need to get a modern pair and cut them up now...

I’ve got loads in stock!! 🙄
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Re: Anatomy of a cricket pad
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2022, 08:50:29 AM »

Well, it would seem that I could have saved myself some time, effort, and not to mention an old cricket pad if I'd just watched videos of them being made instead...

https://youtu.be/uvtIlOhSg14

And this one seems to be pretty much in real time (some minor editing only I think) - start to finish is about 10 minutes

https://youtu.be/ZtfOYXeOFO8
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