Topic: Your indoor nets 2022 (Read 11441 times)

Warneymonster · « **Reply #45 on:** February 25, 2022, 09:31:43 AM »

personally ive loved nets this year, have done 4 now and batted really well in the last 2. i struggle in a battling lid so i have tired to use nets as a way of getting more used to wearing one, i just find i dont pick up the length of the ball at all and have to react really late.

i had decided i couldnt be bothered to play much this year when i saw the fixture list, but will be making more effort now

Jimbo · « **Reply #46 on:** February 25, 2022, 10:04:55 AM »

I've found indoor nets a big help so far. Made more of a point of seeking help from the more experienced batters in the club and asking what they can see that I'm doing right or wrong and trying to adjust things based on that.

First couple of nets were horrific, was all over the place, but I've made a couple of tweaks to how I set up based on feedback and I've been middling a lot more and feeling much better about my batting.

As others have said, it's good to see folk again and get a bit of a club atmosphere going for the new season.

Paese · « **Reply #47 on:** February 25, 2022, 12:01:27 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on February 25, 2022, 10:04:55 AM

I've found indoor nets a big help so far. Made more of a point of seeking help from the more experienced batters in the club and asking what they can see that I'm doing right or wrong and trying to adjust things based on that.

First couple of nets were horrific, was all over the place, but I've made a couple of tweaks to how I set up based on feedback and I've been middling a lot more and feeling much better about my batting.

As others have said, it's good to see folk again and get a bit of a club atmosphere going for the new season.

I've used the winter to do something similar after a few poor seasons. I was progressively triggering more and more to the point where my body position was all over the place by the time the bowler was releasing it. Gone back to basics, tried to cut out any trigger in the hope that it at least minimises movement at the crease, narrowed my stance to give me a better base, and really just focused on playing in the V and getting my head over the ball (even started a little game when netting where I get points if the ball hits the floor before the net, more difficult than it sounds it turns out). It's been tough and has meant using video and the bowling machine at B3 about every other week since last August, but it's getting there.

Unsurprisingly it's difficult to remove or even reduce a trigger I have been doing for the past 15-20 years. But finally starting to watch the ball (which is easier without the trigger) and no longer have to consciously think about standing still at the crease.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 25, 2022, 12:03:48 PM »

Not a club net because, well.. find them useless but a group of us do this

Indoor nets.. Track is way to true and bounces like the WACA meaning anyone with an eye if you wish can just tee off and look/feel great but the reality is.. when I put the high FPS camera on them and slow it down, you can see easily all the technical issues that will come out as soon as it's not a road.. aka.. they will play then true to their averages and get out etc.

So...

To make it more use all we do is set up 4 bowling machines out of 5 nets and set each one to a shot.. you have 25 balls on each shot and 100 balls per bag. so you have a group of 8 on the machines... hit 25 straight drives (and ONLY straight drives), then move to hit say extra cover drives.. then hit say cover drives.. then say play a forward defence to a good ball.. then each week, just rotate 2 of the shots so you end up having at least 2-3 weeks on each shot.

The 5th lane for us is used as a net where you have a machine but it's more set up and you 'ask' the feeder to bowl a certain way at you.. aka 'Bowl me 75mph, away swing between 1 and 3 (feeder can change without warning and every ball if they wish) and bowl an 'opening' spell.. or then say bowl a middle overs spell.. etc etc.. that way, you get a good work over and it really does stop hitters just honking as the ball doesn't do the same.. amazing how many get cleaned up or nick off unless you keep it tight and only play the bad balls etc.

Bowling we don't overly do but the 2 bowlers who come tend to video themselves like batting for issues (they tend to use Ian pont's channel for technical stuff) but mainly, mark out area's with tape to hit and try and bowl 'spell's hitting those zones.

The camera's now do ball tracking so we can build up a pitch map and beehive (new in for the last 2 weeks tbf) which then tries to make it a bit of a game for bowlers as you score points for hitting the right areas etc. Obviously you can change the game from opening spells, to death bowling etc etc..

Seems to work well but I wills ay you do require the toys to make it work.

I personally am yet to see ANY club have anything vaguely decent with regards to club nets. Nearly always seems o be crap bowling, bouncers or slogging

Paese · « **Reply #49 on:** February 25, 2022, 12:11:15 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on February 25, 2022, 12:03:48 PM

Not a club net because, well.. find them useless but a group of us do this

Indoor nets.. Track is way to true and bounces like the WACA meaning anyone with an eye if you wish can just tee off and look/feel great but the reality is.. when I put the high FPS camera on them and slow it down, you can see easily all the technical issues that will come out as soon as it's not a road.. aka.. they will play then true to their averages and get out etc.

So...

To make it more use all we do is set up 4 bowling machines out of 5 nets and set each one to a shot.. you have 25 balls on each shot and 100 balls per bag. so you have a group of 8 on the machines... hit 25 straight drives (and ONLY straight drives), then move to hit say extra cover drives.. then hit say cover drives.. then say play a forward defence to a good ball.. then each week, just rotate 2 of the shots so you end up having at least 2-3 weeks on each shot.

The 5th lane for us is used as a net where you have a machine but it's more set up and you 'ask' the feeder to bowl a certain way at you.. aka 'Bowl me 75mph, away swing between 1 and 3 (feeder can change without warning and every ball if they wish) and bowl an 'opening' spell.. or then say bowl a middle overs spell.. etc etc.. that way, you get a good work over and it really does stop hitters just honking as the ball doesn't do the same.. amazing how many get cleaned up or nick off unless you keep it tight and only play the bad balls etc.

Bowling we don't overly do but the 2 bowlers who come tend to video themselves like batting for issues (they tend to use Ian pont's channel for technical stuff) but mainly, mark out area's with tape to hit and try and bowl 'spell's hitting those zones.

The camera's now do ball tracking so we can build up a pitch map and beehive (new in for the last 2 weeks tbf) which then tries to make it a bit of a game for bowlers as you score points for hitting the right areas etc. Obviously you can change the game from opening spells, to death bowling etc etc..

Seems to work well but I wills ay you do require the toys to make it work.

I personally am yet to see ANY club have anything vaguely decent with regards to club nets. Nearly always seems o be crap bowling, bouncers or slogging

Apologies if you have mentioned elsewhere but where is this? Sounds like a great set up, and a bigger and better version of what me and one other have been doing at B3 the past few months.

Jimbo · « **Reply #50 on:** February 25, 2022, 12:26:05 PM »

@Paese interesting you've narrowed your stance to get a better base, I've done exactly the opposite.

I'm not tall in the slightest but used to stand with my feet about hip width apart. Feedback was that I didn't look particularly well balanced so widened my stance out to shoulder width or very slightly wider and had really good nets since.

Be interested to know exactly what the change you've made is.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 25, 2022, 12:31:13 PM »

Quote from: Paese on February 25, 2022, 12:11:15 PM

Apologies if you have mentioned elsewhere but where is this? Sounds like a great set up, and a bigger and better version of what me and one other have been doing at B3 the past few months.

private nets, not at a club. I'm yet to find any club willing to actually invest / do decent nets so a group fo us do it ourselves. I'm just stupid enough to buy bola's , loads of Bola balls and code up some camera systems to be able to do it

Paese · « **Reply #52 on:** February 25, 2022, 01:15:53 PM »

Quote from: Jimbo on February 25, 2022, 12:26:05 PM

@Paese interesting you've narrowed your stance to get a better base, I've done exactly the opposite.

I'm not tall in the slightest but used to stand with my feet about hip width apart. Feedback was that I didn't look particularly well balanced so widened my stance out to shoulder width or very slightly wider and had really good nets since.

Be interested to know exactly what the change you've made is.

My stance (both pre-trigger and also post) has progressively got wider (originally it started slightly more than shoulder width apart, but by last season it was much wider) over the past 10 years. By no means do I play an amazing standard of cricket where I'm facing genuine fast bowling, but originally I found against bowling with any kind of pace it meant I was basically in a position to defend or attack with less time needed to change position. And it was fine for quite a while, the plan worked.

However, the past couple of years it got so wide that it meant I couldn't physically push off forward or back effectively, and felt footwork was stunted and a real problem. When I was trying to drive the ball - because I was already coming from a wide base - my resulting stride would be too long, I would never be able to get my head over the ball because it was physically impossible and I would therefore hit in the air. Likewise, moving back and across for cutting or pulling, became increasingly difficult because I didn't have the base to push off and change direction.

Not sure if that makes any sense, never had to type it out before. Anyway, if you're following...

By narrowing my stance (to more like hip width), it has meant I can actually lead with my head, get over the ball and my feet follow regardless of the shot. Plus, because of that it means my weight it actually going through the ball. Chuck in the fact I was walking across from past leg stump to middle-off, I wasn't giving myself any hope of being in a good set position to play the ball. So I am more static now and seeing the ball 10x better.

I think everyone is different though depending on how you play the ball and what shots you do and don't have. And it could all be a load of rubbish, and will result in me concluding it's simply lazy footwork and eyes not being good enough. Time will tell.

Jimbo · « **Reply #53 on:** February 25, 2022, 01:40:01 PM »

Cheers, some interesting stuff there. Always find it useful to look at what others are doing and see what it gives me to think about 👍

A-Swing-And-A-Miss · « **Reply #54 on:** February 26, 2022, 01:14:58 PM »

Had two indoor nets with varied results, my focus this year is trying to play the ball on the ground more as 80% of my league dismissals (4 out of 5) last season were all caught infront of square. First week bowled well with what felt like a bit more pace than last year, batted okay until I was bowled through the gate twice in consecutive balls and then after that I was all over the place. This week I barely bowled as injured my ankle at football the night before and batting was pretty poor too, very little foot movement or real plan of how I would actually get the ball through a field in a game and for the first time that I can remember I got hit on the glove, right on the end of the thumb, and that ruined the rest of the session for me.

Might have to try and record myself next week as I was hoping this might be the year that I can finally move into more of an all-rounder role that I feel that my ability warrants.

Kez · « **Reply #55 on:** February 26, 2022, 10:21:29 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on February 25, 2022, 12:03:48 PM

The camera's now do ball tracking so we can build up a pitch map and beehive (new in for the last 2 weeks tbf) which then tries to make it a bit of a game for bowlers as you score points for hitting the right areas etc. Obviously you can change the game from opening spells, to death bowling etc etc..

I�m intrigued� care to share anymore on this Pro? Even just your outputs? And how accurate do you think the tracking is?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 27, 2022, 11:10:52 AM »

Quote from: Kez on February 26, 2022, 10:21:29 PM

I�m intrigued� care to share anymore on this Pro? Even just your outputs? And how accurate do you think the tracking is?

Not yet. Still developing . Tracking is accurate as it's literally frame by Frame.. it's the predictive part where you lose the accuracy. Never going to be Hawkeye, their camera's, FPS are monster bucks but then this is for people/clubs.. Not international games

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #57 on:** February 27, 2022, 11:38:45 AM »

Get outdoors! It will be fine. Where I live people go all year round.

Jimbo · « **Reply #58 on:** February 27, 2022, 11:47:19 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 27, 2022, 11:38:45 AM

Get outdoors! It will be fine. Where I live people go all year round.

So we know you don't play cricket in Scotland now then 😂

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