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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 07:41:01 PM »

I agree with Mike, Not Out all batsmen are within their ground, however i would ask the runner to leave the field as the batsmen is able to run
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2010, 08:09:27 PM »

My situation was slightly different.

I was facing with a runner, hit a ball to long-off and my runner and the non-striker took a single. The non-striker made his ground easily at my end, but i wandered off to square leg but was out of my crease. The 'Win at all costs' Bristol West Indies took the bails off and I was given out...

Should that have been out???

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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2010, 08:12:44 PM »

Technically yes, but you could have argued it was against the spirit of the game.

Jeet, is there a rule saying the striker cannot run?, he needs a runner so that should signal his inability but we must have all seen it happen. If he steps over the popping crease he can be out.
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2010, 08:14:26 PM »

Yeah thats what everyone thought at the time.... survived 24 overs of bouncers to be out like that :D

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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2010, 09:24:17 PM »

Law 2 (Substitutes and runners; batsman or fielder leaving the field; batsman retiring; batsman commencing innings)

8. Transgression of the Laws by a batsman who has a runner
(c) When a batsman with a runner is striker he remains himself subject to the Laws and will be liable to the penalties that any infringement of them demands.
Additionally, if he is out of his ground when the wicket is put down at the wicket-keeper's end, he will be out in the circumstances of Law 38 (Run out) or Law 39 (Stumped) irrespective of the position of the non-striker or of the runner. If he is thus dismissed, runs completed by the runner and the other batsman before the dismissal shall not be scored. However, the penalty for a No ball or a Wide shall stand, together with any penalties to either side that may be awarded when the ball is dead. See Law 42.17 (Penalty runs).




http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-2-substitutes-and-runners-batsman-or-fielder-leaving-the-field-batsman-retiring-batsman-commencing-innings,28,AR.html
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2010, 09:33:16 PM »

Surely that is with respect to him standing outside his ground while runs are being made rather than performing the run himself?

Where is a top umpire when you need one?
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2010, 10:32:27 PM »

he has to go off the field and cant return untill the end of an over

or the fall of a wicket?
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2010, 12:16:57 AM »


 if he is out of his ground when the wicket is put down at the wicket-keeper's end, he will be out in the circumstances of Law 38 (Run out) or Law 39 (Stumped) irrespective of the position of the non-striker or of the runner.[/color][/b]


The batsman has made his ground, all be it at the other end but in any other situation the batsman would have been said to have made his ground...
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2010, 07:53:15 PM »

need some help on this one, it happpened to a mate of mine. they are bowling, the scores are tied and they have 1 wicket left, a wide is bowled, they ran and they got the run out. The umpire said that they lost but got all 10 wickets....however Im sure thats not the case as once the wide is called that is the end of the game correct?
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2010, 08:53:20 PM »

Yes.
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2010, 08:55:39 PM »

thought so, but always nice to confirm. Bloke was gona claim they took 10 wickets and lost by 0 wickets on the scoresheet! Glad I informed him
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2010, 08:59:19 AM »

With the one about the runner, something similar happened in t20 final, Christian wandered out of his ground, so in theory if kieswetter had the ball and took the stumps off, it could have been different...
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2010, 09:08:43 AM »

I was thinking after watching the pakistan fielders last night slide and save a ball and the boundary markers were pushed out... what would happen if a fielder was trying to take a high catch on the boundary as he walked back his heels moved the rope back by 7" and he takes a small step forward and takes the catch but his heels were over the original boundary
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2010, 11:01:56 AM »

I was thinking after watching the pakistan fielders last night slide and save a ball and the boundary markers were pushed out... what would happen if a fielder was trying to take a high catch on the boundary as he walked back his heels moved the rope back by 7" and he takes a small step forward and takes the catch but his heels were over the original boundary
This happens a lot in the sub continent, if following the boundry the ball goes where the boundry should've been it's 4 or 6. It's easier to spot in Asia as the grass gets discoloured due to the boundry advertising triangle.
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Re: Your the Umpire
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2010, 11:03:07 AM »

With the one about the runner, something similar happened in t20 final, Christian wandered out of his ground, so in theory if kieswetter had the ball and took the stumps off, it could have been different...
Yes SCCC would've won. The runner isn't allowed to leave his crease
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