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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 05:32:04 PM »

Hi all - there has been lots written about the weights of Solitaire bats on this forum.
There has been nothing directed against the quality of the bats...but more against the weights of the bats.

So I was thinking that we really need to ensure that we are being fair here.
Therefore anyone with a Solitaire, please specify what weight of solitaire you have?
And then in brackets put the weight you ordered!!
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Shouldn't this discussion include pickup as well?
For example, if you ordered a 2'10 bat, but got a 2'12 that picks up like a 2'10, does it really matter?
Personally I would be happy to get a heavier bat with the pickup I'm used to, because it means more meat behind the bat. Understand that others might disagree...
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 06:00:09 PM »

I think it would still matter for some people, a 2.12 that picks up 2.8 still weighs 2.12, if someone wanted a 2.8 as that is the heaviest they could use without undue fatigue over an innings then a 2.12 would be no good whatever the pickup. It depends on the individual i suppose
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2011, 06:03:18 PM »

possibly.

I've had bats around 2'9-2'10 most of the time and I haven't had a problem with a net session before, however with my 2'12+ solitaire, it did feel as though it picked up more like a 2'10-2'11 bat but after a 30ish minute net session I could tell that the bat was slightly too heavy for me over a prolonged time as the bat felt heavy in my hands towards the end of that session. So I wouldn't say that pick-up is everything, I would class that as a bonus if it feels lighter than what the bat actually weighs.
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2011, 06:30:55 PM »

Cross batted shot is where pick-up means nothing.
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2011, 07:05:57 PM »

Really?

The physics are unchanged for straight and cross batted shots (hands remain at the same position relative to the bat) ...
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 07:08:17 PM »

Cross batted shot is where pick-up means nothing.

I can always tell if a bat is too heavy when i'm pinned to the back wall of the net ;)
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 07:25:07 PM »

Cross batted shots will use different and weaker muscle groups
any activity done away from the core tends to feel
harder
martin crowe one of the best batsmen in the nineties comonally accepted as when cricket was harder than now
suggests that you need to play a cross batted shot with the top hand only six times without any fatigue as a test of the weight of your bat ie feel trierd it is too heavy

he see a 2 lb 7
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 07:33:54 PM »

Shouldn't this discussion include pickup as well?
For example, if you ordered a 2'10 bat, but got a 2'12 that picks up like a 2'10, does it really matter?
Personally I would be happy to get a heavier bat with the pickup I'm used to, because it means more meat behind the bat. Understand that others might disagree...

if thats the case my solitaire is 2.12 and it picks up like its a 2.15 SLEDGE HAMMER
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 12:04:18 AM »

Really?

The physics are unchanged for straight and cross batted shots (hands remain at the same position relative to the bat) ...
The hands remain in the same position but the weight acts very differently, requiring the biology to work in a different way. Holding a bat vertically which is therefore not pivoting about your wrist requires much less muscle use than horizontally, where it is!
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 12:08:41 AM »

hence why high middles are preferred by players who play back foot / cross bat shots. Centre of gravity on the bat is higher putting less stress on the wrist areas.
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 12:09:47 AM »

hence why high middles are preferred by players who play back foot / cross bat shot. Centre of gravity on the bat is higher putting less stress on the wrist areas.
Yes, and allowing faster bat velocity, but I won't go into that again.
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Re: Solitaire - the heavy facts
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2011, 04:53:51 AM »

hence why high middles are preferred by players who play back foot / cross bat shots. Centre of gravity on the bat is higher putting less stress on the wrist areas.

True dat, but I think the higher middle helps since the ball hits the bat higher when playing back / across
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