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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 01:15:57 PM »

Just to update. Pro Direct have provided an excellent after sales service and, after having contacted Mongoose, offered to replace the bat with this year's equivalent model, the CoR3 premium, despite it being more expensive.
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 03:47:06 PM »

Mate, toe does not look knocked in at all. The edges are still sharp, you should round them off. Also, like someone else said, the toe looks quite dry.

What the consensus on oiling the toe?

I'm planning on applying an anti-scuff sheet after knocking in the new bat, but I'm not going to apply oil to the face. Incidentally I see some people recommend oiling the face before knocking in, am I likely to cause damage to the face by knocking in without it having been oiled?

Is it ok to oil the exposed area between the bottom of the face of the bat and bottom of the anti-scuff sheet after the sheet has been applied, or will this cause the sheet to peel away? Or should I only oil the face of the toe (i.e the area the bat rests on when standing upright), and should this be done before or after applying the sheet?
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 03:57:41 PM »

Opinions seem to vary

This is what Laver recommends ...

http://www.abcofcricket.com/Article_Library/art47/art48/art48.htm

Mr.Millichamp says oil that toe well ...



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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 04:34:11 PM »

What the consensus on oiling the toe?

I'm planning on applying an anti-scuff sheet after knocking in the new bat, but I'm not going to apply oil to the face. Incidentally I see some people recommend oiling the face before knocking in, am I likely to cause damage to the face by knocking in without it having been oiled?

Is it ok to oil the exposed area between the bottom of the face of the bat and bottom of the anti-scuff sheet after the sheet has been applied, or will this cause the sheet to peel away? Or should I only oil the face of the toe (i.e the area the bat rests on when standing upright), and should this be done before or after applying the sheet?
You can apply the anti-scuff to the face before you knock it in. It won't hurt, and as has been said on other threads, does the job of retaining moisture that oil does.

In addition, if you buy a Newbery with a hammer edge sheet on it, you are expected to knock it in with this in place and the bat is not oiled before the sheet is applied. This is also the case when they do a refurb.

with the toe, you should oil it, mainly as protection against damp pitches if you don't have a toe guard.
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 10:48:17 AM »

So applying oil at the toe of the bat after the anti-scuff has been applied shouldn't affect its stickiness? Also, would it be an idea to round off the edges before it's applied?
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 11:03:07 AM »

Oiling just prevents surface cracking and bat getting dry. It wont matter if you knock it in before or after oiling but personally rolling, oiling would be the first two things id do, and after 5 days (when oil has dried) id apply a sleeve/anti scuff
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2011, 10:00:36 AM »

I've applied 4 or 5 coats of oil to the toe of the new bat and have been very gentle with knocking in but surface cracks are appearing  at the front of the toe. What's the best course of action?


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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2011, 10:12:07 AM »

I would put a PVA glue in the crack and then a toe guard over the top.
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2011, 10:31:20 AM »

I don't tend to use toe guards as there a pain in the backside to put on properly. I thought about sanding away the cracks and re-oiling but if you think pva glue will do the job I might give that a go.
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2011, 10:37:13 AM »

I was always toldnot to knock in the toe area (or at least not too hard) as it caused this very sort of thing to happen.

No idea if it's true or not mind you.
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2011, 10:51:55 AM »

i was told that the toe doesnt need knocking in. just the edges rounding off. dont know if this is right or not.


i dont really like oiling toe's, i prefer fitting a toe guard on as it would bind the toe together and make it stronger as well as reducing the moisture uptake.

i dont think its that bad to be honest
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2011, 06:04:36 PM »

Toe requires most knocking I would say
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2011, 06:36:34 PM »

i was told that the toe doesnt need knocking in. just the edges rounding off. dont know if this is right or not.


i dont really like oiling toe's, i prefer fitting a toe guard on as it would bind the toe together and make it stronger as well as reducing the moisture uptake.

i dont think its that bad to be honest

Love the logic. Just oil it and knock it in properly next time - that means loads of toe time. If cracks open up like this (and it's hardly fatal), just stick on some PVC and gently sand down. If you are really worried, stick some fibre glass tape around the toe and that ought to bind it together pretty well.

Here's what you can do with a bit of glue:-





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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2011, 03:54:23 PM »

Fletch does that thing have just 3 1/2 grains?   :o  Another exhibit for the argument that grains aren't the "be all and end all" indicator of a bat's quality!

Nicks, did you knock in the edges of the toe (make them curl over)? That would prevent the stiff surface layer from separating from the rest of the wood. Anyway, given that those cracks are tiny, I would recommend putting some superglue in them. PVA might not soak in well. If really prefer using PVA, try diluting it with a *little* water, just enough to make it soak into the crack.

A couple days after glueing, you can put some shoe goo on the toe.

Just my .02
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Re: Repairable?
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2011, 10:43:01 PM »

ask yourself, why are so many manufacturers incurring extra cost and putting on toe guards?
they are not hard to put on.
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