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[Mr Cricket]

pre world cup a lot of people had a rant at me for saying prior is not a world class cricketer, and now i have not seen him in one prospective team, because of one bad tournament?

[procricket]

he is world class at first class level of that there is no doubt

It may be a poor vintage for world class all round keeper batsman but he up there in the longer format of the game

[Mr Cricket]

sorry procricket, a world class player covers all formats for me, you dont see sachin only turn up for test matches.

[roco]

Trott*
Pieterson
Bell
Hildreth
Morgan
Bopara
Foster
Swann
Broad
Woaks
Dernbach

[golders]

Davies
Bell (C)
Trott
Pieterson
Morgan
Bopara
Swann
Broad
Shazaad
Rashid
Anderson



Not in batting order...

We need some big six hitters a la Pollard etc...


Who are they???

[Mr Cricket]

for want of a better word, we need a meathead... 7 foot tall, built like a brick shithouse, 4lb bat, good eye for the ball... we just dont have anyone who can do it consistantly

[procricket]

sorry procricket, a world class player covers all formats for me, you dont see sachin only turn up for test matches.

fso you want him dropped for the longer version of the game as well

[roco]

We are not taught to bat with freedom that's why so rarely a player comes along with the balls to do it the last real one was banger oh how we miss you

[procricket]

ben stokes is a possible

[Liam-SCCC]

Davies
Bell (C)
Trott
Pieterson
Morgan
Bopara
Swann
Broad
Shazaad
Rashid
Anderson



Not in batting order...

We need some big six hitters a la Pollard etc...


Who are they???

If you want a big hitter then Davies out and Kieswetter in! I know he does have some bad innings but he can certainly hit a big ball!

[procricket]

have to admit give keiswetter a chance he can hit a big ball

[golders]

If you want a big hitter then Davies out and Kieswetter in! I know he does have some bad innings but he can certainly hit a big ball!

Not sure I rate him too highly bt was discarded pretty quick, but brought in too soon.

[roco]

I don't really rate kieswetters keeping I'm probably old fashioned but I like a good keeper behind the stumps

[Mr Cricket]

fso you want him dropped for the longer version of the game as well

i have no attachment to him, if someone came along and could do a better job id have them in, i think he is weak mentally and has never played for sustained periods with the positive instinct he was gifted. he is worth his place in the test side, but as i have repeatedly said, i cant give him the tag 'world class', hopefully someone else can put a case forward to replace him
 
everyones given up on him as a one day player so far though, calling for kieswetter, the world cup debacle should provide an oppotunity to rebuild ODI wise, its time to freshen up and give someone else a chance, i.e. davies or smith

[golders]

I don't really rate kieswetters keeping I'm probably old fashioned but I like a good keeper behind the stumps

Also another saffa which im not too keen on. If trott,pieterson,dernback,kieswetter,morgan all play I wont be supporting engand but someone else!