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Does this need more oil and knocking In
« on: May 14, 2011, 09:38:37 AM »
Hey

I have been knocking my Kookaburra Big Kahuna for god knows how long. Used the bat in the nets. Now do u guys think I could do with more knocking in.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2576/dscn0179f.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/439/dscn0182s.jpg
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 10:21:11 AM »
needs maybe a quick sanding down and knocking in abit more and a scuff-sheet putting on
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 12:25:29 PM »
That bat *looks* like a plank, the big Kahuna is after all one of the cheaper Kooks. But only you can tell for sure since you've used it. I'll just say that if it indeed is a plank, you could knock it 'til kingdom come and it won't matter a bit

My advice - sell this on or keep it as a net bat. Get a good one through Mike, he's doing a great Kook sale right now

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=11660.0

Btw, from the pictures it doesn't look like there's deep seam marks, so I'd say you've knocked it in enough
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 12:38:46 PM »
Quote from: SkipperJ on May 14, 2011, 12:25:29 PM
That bat *looks* like a plank, the big Kahuna is after all one of the cheaper Kooks. But only you can tell for sure since you've used it. I'll just say that if it indeed is a plank, you could knock it 'til kingdom come and it won't matter a bit

My advice - sell this on or keep it as a net bat. Get a good one through Mike, he's doing a great Kook sale right now

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=11660.0

Btw, from the pictures it doesn't look like there's deep seam marks, so I'd say you've knocked it in enough

And what are you basing this on, one small knot and the grains, or do you have some super powers.
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 03:20:24 PM »
SkipperJ - how do you know the bat is a plank.....!? Okay so it doesn't have 10+ ruler straight grains and isn't blemish free but you can't say it is a plank without having used the bat in question.

I've had some 'cheap' bats that perform pretty well, the bat below (CA 20-20) isn't the prettiest but cost me £70 new and plays better than some 12 grain £160+ bats I have used.

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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 06:21:17 PM »
Did you guys even read my post properly?
"That bat *looks* like a plank ... But only you can tell for sure since you've used it"

I just said it looks like a plank, not that it is one actually. But based on his description, chances are that it is.

Quit unfairly attacking others' opinions ....
« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 06:29:17 PM by SkipperJ »
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 07:35:11 PM »
Ok let's establish some simple facts before we turn to the forum oracles who can judge a bat's performance from one bad photo.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever successfully knocked in a bat before? If the bat is still being dented in the nets, it is possible you are not hitting it with the mallet hard enough.

I can't tell from the pics if you have fitted an anti suff sheet. If you haven't, do so. They make the bat last longer, protect from damage and do not noticeably reduce performance.

Amusingly, your bat has a very similar grain structure to my Tendulkar bat. Guess that must be a plank to then :D

If the bat is effectively new and you genuinely believe it is faulty, contact the place you bought it from. They will at least give you an opinion. It is difficult to know exactly the situation just be looking at pics.
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 07:39:19 PM »
Quote from: SkipperJ on May 15, 2011, 06:21:17 PM
Did you guys even read my post properly?
"That bat *looks* like a plank ... But only you can tell for sure since you've used it"

I just said it looks like a plank, not that it is one actually. But based on his description, chances are that it is.

Quit unfairly attacking others' opinions ....

No one is attacking you so cut the prima donna act. If anyone has been on the attack in this thread it is you. To suggest a bat may be a plank based only on a photo is quite ridiculous and demonstrates that you don't know what you are talking about.

Looks do not equal performance.

Besides, this bat may be the user's pride and joy. To suggest it might be a plank is actually quite a nasty thing to say. I've never known a bat to be a plank just because it takes a while to knock in.
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 07:57:38 PM »
I was wondering where you were JP, didn't take too long to show up on your high horse either. If looks are irrelevant, why are pictures mandatory on this forum's for sale section?

Btw, I just offered an opinion to the OP, he could take it or leave it. He hasn't said anything, it's just a few onlookers who're all acting up.

If you disagree with me, that's fine, just state your opinion. There's no need to be condescending and insult me.

Prima donna and superpowers ... really? Just because I choose not to retort doesn't mean that I can't.

« Last Edit: May 15, 2011, 08:00:17 PM by SkipperJ »
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 08:08:51 PM »
If I were you I would clean the marks of the face with a light sanding, then rub it down with a cloth (to get the residue of it) and put a scuff sheet and start using it.

I really hope this is a monster of a bat for you, I think it looks great - don't listen to grumpy posters on this forum, the thing about a bat is that the most important bit is who is holding the handle, not who pressed it, who made it, what the grains look like or whether it meets approval on this or any other forum. I realise that this is a bit of a secret I am sharing here, so lets keep it between us ;)
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 08:20:34 PM »
Funny thing is all he did was ask if from the pics if people on here thought it could do with more knocking in - I don't read anything about him saying "does it need more knocking in because it isn't performing for me"! So how the topic of it being a plank came up is beyond me!

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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2011, 08:35:58 PM »
Whoa people!!! Settle down.... lets agree to disagree but lets not fight :) :)

Thanks to everyone who posted.. the thing is i havent knocked a bat myself fully as it was already done. I thought I'd do it myself this time so i wasnt sure if i did it properly...

I used it in the nets in the present condition but I really dont like the cherry marks it has on it face.

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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2011, 08:54:04 PM »
If you can hold on till I'm back home 1st of June I will knock it in for you foc

My mate had the same bat as you and a similar grains now no bat is the same but his is very good indeed

I do not oil bats at all just scuff them up and knock but each to

I get seam marks still of a new ball after 12 hours of knocking in on my main bat but the performance is there

Stick with it mate it may come good my lower grade bat took more time but is rivalling the so called better bat
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2011, 09:02:53 PM »
sorry to derail your thread mate, back on topic now.

A crude way to tell if the bat is knocked in enough - press a fingernail into the blade. If it makes a deep mark or indents easily, you need to do more knocking. This in addition to the appearance of deep seam marks when using the bat in the nets against older/softer cricket balls (you will always get some seam marks, but as long as they are light it doesn't matter.)

Also, here's a knocking in guide from a real bat expert (James Laver)
http://www.laverwood.co.nz/batcare.php
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Re: Does this need more oil and knocking In
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2011, 09:07:15 PM »
Good read that and I think there a good guide on cricket stuff website

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