Topic: Couple of questions/statements on bats, willow etc (Read 11014 times)

19reading87 · « **on:** May 17, 2011, 07:48:33 PM »

Bored on a Tuesday night looking at the rain outside my bedroom window I was wondering a few things...

* Would a Grade 1 willow bat costing �160 perform worse or same as a Grade 1 Willow bat cost �260???

* Would a Grade 2/3 bat last as long as a Grade 1 bat???

* Would a lesser grade bat (again grade 2/3) not hit the ball as far/ as cleanly as a Grade 1 bat - yes it might depend on how strong the person using it is but you get where I'm coming from....

Thought's on all 3 points gentleman

Reds

Cover_Drive · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2011, 07:52:38 PM »

Point 2: I think it will last longer because if Grade 2/3 has fewer grains than a Grade 1 then it should last longer.

Rest are the questions I would like to be answered as well

Jenko · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:04:18 PM »

Does it depend on whose grading system is used??? Just with the whole thing on bats being graded on looks with some companies, not performance....(point 3 I'm talking about)

Anyway out of my area of expertise really!

19reading87 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:05:54 PM »

Would be good to hear from some of the bat makers/company owners with their views....

mattw · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:07:41 PM »

There are plenty of threads discussing these points somewhere...

'Grade 1' depends on what the bat maker grades the wood on I assume, so two G1 bats from different companies may be graded as G1 on different merits so therefore I would assume you would get different performance from each bat.

Again, Grade 2/3 may only be different to a Grade 1 bat on looks rather than performance - so they may perform the same, however the looks of the bat may make it uglier, therefore the batmaker might grade it down to a G2/3. I 'think' G1 is normally around 8 grains(?) because then then pressing of the bat can be manipulated the most(?) so that it should be a better bat to one that is 3 grains due to the pressing is different. However you can find bats that are graded as G2/3 that perform very good indeed.

(There is a table somewhere of what normally grades wood but I can't find the link).

19reading87 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:13:01 PM »

Good info mate.

P.s posted your things today - let me know when you get them

mattw · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:20:27 PM »

Nice one cheers, Will do!

http://www.quantumcricket.com/willow.html

Here's something I found...

Burdy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:35:06 PM »

I'm loving that link!!

Grade 2 here i come!!

19reading87 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »

Quote from: Burdy on May 17, 2011, 08:35:06 PM

I'm loving that link!!

Grade 2 here i come!!

lol why's that mate

Burdy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:25:07 PM »

Being somewhat of a cheapskate of late, i always used to buy top of the range bats as i always thought they would perform better. I am not one now of being a bit of a 'tart' when it comes to bats in the way of its looks. If it feels good and the ball goes to the boundary, i will keep using it.
2 of my last 3 bats have been bought for �80 or less, and are probably the best i have used. So basically the link says to me, grade 2 is only graded as that because of its looks.

I must repeat. I AM A CHEAPSKATE

19reading87 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:32:25 PM »

haha quality explanation!

My mate has so far scored 4 tons this season 3 in 3 innings and he uses a nitro 5 star which is graded as grade 2 and the ball absolutely flys!!!!!

procricket · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:38:26 PM »

All this stuff about bays being better and less grains means it last longer and tighter grains are showers from the start

I think bats are variable in all grains and grades you have half a chance of a good un if it pressed proper but the rest is as variable as willow itself

Burdy · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2011, 09:54:24 PM »

I must say, it is probably school boy stuff but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Decent pressing and Knocking in your bat properly will make your bat last longer, and from my experience (not as long as some on here) it does make your bat perform better.
But i would probably not buy grade 3......................... unless the price is right lol.
Friend of mine had a V12 armour web years ago, he got the urine taken out of him for it, but with near on 1000 league runs with it, i must say, it was a gun. So looks are not everything.

I do feel we are in an age of cricket bat tarts. Although i must say, i am not shy on letting a batsman know how poor a bat looks for a bit of banter. I get loads when i come out with a Fatso, it isnt the prettiest, but an absolute gun, oh, and the name does fit the batsman

tim2000s · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2011, 10:27:10 PM »

The H4L I have is graded as a 5* due to having a couple of wavy lines on its face. If the mallet is anything to go by, it will perform like the Instinct, which is graded as a Zenith on performance.

Different manufacturers grade differently. Your questions will result in different answers dependent on who has made the bat and how it is graded. There is therefore no easy way to answer them.

100 not out · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2011, 08:36:25 AM »

I am suprised that the V12 shape has never made a comeback. . . .what a bat it was.

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