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You Are the Umpire.....
« on: July 06, 2011, 09:17:15 AM »

Here's one for the wicket-keepers and those who think they know the Laws of Cricket......that's all of us, right?

The scores are tied and it's the last ball of the match.  The ball is hit firmly towards square leg and the batsmen set off for a run. The bails are blown off by the wind as the ball is being thrown to the wicket-keeper. The wicket-keeper catches the ball and brings his gloved hands into contact with the stumps and appeals as the diving batsman has not made good his ground.

What's your decision umpire?  Hurry up, the fielding side are glaring at you, the batting side are lined up in front of the pavilion....everyone is watching YOU!  Decision time....
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 09:20:22 AM »

I'm guessing not out, the keeper should have lifted the stump out of the ground whilst holding the ball?
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 09:21:17 AM »

my initial thought was not out for above reason, but i think out now, something to do with the wicket keepers gloved hands doing it meaning a stump doesnt have to be removed? or something to do with the bails coming off in the wind...? (more likely the former glove reason)

not sure but i'm sticking my neck on the line and saying out, tied match, let the super over commence!

but then again i'm not an umpire ;)
« Last Edit: July 06, 2011, 09:24:50 AM by peplow »
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 09:21:44 AM »

Not out the wicket keeper must pull one of the stumps from the ground and tap it with the ball
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2011, 09:22:16 AM »

Dead Ball. Scores still tied and the last ball of the match to be bowled again?
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2011, 09:23:40 AM »

Or place 1 bail back on and and then remove with teh ball in your hands.....by this time the batsmen would be home.
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2011, 09:25:25 AM »

Dead Ball. Scores still tied and the last ball of the match to be bowled again?

a decent shout maybe... however maybe too late as the ball has been bowled?
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 09:28:38 AM »

Dead Ball. Scores still tied and the last ball of the match to be bowled again?

Heading down this route but a dead ball can only be called prior to the delivery being bowled?. The bails haven't been broken by the ball or a player and I don't see a requirement to take the stump out of the ground. However, it's the point at which the bails came off that determines the outcome so I'm not really sure!.
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 09:28:56 AM »

Dead Ball. Scores still tied and the last ball of the match to be bowled again?
Cant be a dead ball as the ball was bowled and the batsman was running. I say not out
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 09:33:20 AM »

id say out as bails werent dislodged deliberately.

where are the heavy bails when u need them. . .
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 09:36:22 AM »

Not out, if you go by the letter of the law, because you have to remove the stump from the ground. Although you can call a dead ball after the ball has been bowled, for example if a batsman does not play a shot and they run a leg-bye.

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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 09:40:08 AM »

MineheadCricket is correct.
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 09:41:36 AM »

It depends on whether the keeper knocks any of the stumps out of the ground when he made contact. If so, out.
Can't just knock them out mate, you have to have the stump in your hand and the ball in the other

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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2011, 09:42:42 AM »

Here's one for the wicket-keepers and those who think they know the Laws of Cricket......that's all of us, right?

The scores are tied and it's the last ball of the match.  The ball is hit firmly towards square leg and the batsmen set off for a run. The bails are blown off by the wind as the ball is being thrown to the wicket-keeper. The wicket-keeper catches the ball and brings his gloved hands into contact with the stumps and appeals as the diving batsman has not made good his ground.

What's your decision umpire?  Hurry up, the fielding side are glaring at you, the batting side are lined up in front of the pavilion....everyone is watching YOU!  Decision time....
When the wicket keeper has come into contact with the stumps, has he removed them from the ground with the force of his motion?

If he has removed even just one stump, as long as it is done in accordance with Law 28.1.v, then the wicket can be considered to have been rendered down, and thus the batsman should be given out.

Otherwise, the batsman is not out, and the run is made.
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Re: You Are the Umpire.....
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2011, 09:43:55 AM »

Not out, if you go by the letter of the law, because you have to remove the stump from the ground. Although you can call a dead ball after the ball has been bowled, for example if a batsman does not play a shot and they run a leg-bye.

If they run a leg bye both batsmen can still be run out regardless if it is then called a dead ball.
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