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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 07:37:27 AM »

Our captains and the team secretary meet up on a tuesday after nets for selection. I think 1st pretty much gets who they want, but as 2nd team have won 6 in a row after losing their first 4 their skipper is quite eager to keep the same side. I know that because of this a 1/2's player who hasn't been available for a while is in the 3's this week and isn't best pleased.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2011, 07:40:48 AM »

on a tuesday night

1st team skipper and vice
2nd team skipper and vice
chariman of selectors.

1st team get pick of who ever they want 2nds have whats left. obv some discussions to take place
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2011, 07:41:05 AM »

Been a 3rd XI captain and dealt directly with the 1s captain on many occasions!

Here's my 15 years of selection experience. Alot of clubs start getting polictical and make up reasons not to take player xyz, and even whole teams. Eventually you shoot yourself in the foot and piss someone off, as you can only so long go on about "key players","balance" etc. Imho the only way to select teams is on merit, as it's far easier to tell a person he isn't good enough or he's one of the best xi in your club than any other bull story.

If you have a selection committee, go to the chairman and explain what you have been told. Get the chairman/Head of Cricket/Selection to then tell the 2nd XI Captain to pull his finger out and help you. Don't go directly to his players, chances are they are good mates with the 2nd XI Captain and will just as unhelpful. The overiding principle is the 1st XI Captain has first pick of all players in the club otherwise it's not a 1st XI - don't feel afraid to tell everyone that, before and after the game.

My club has a Sat League XI, Sunday XI, Midweek XI. The best team possible is picked in the Sat League XI, the rest are given a game Sunday. If you don't make yourself available for both you (ie saturday only) you run the risk of not getting a game.If you are available both days then you always get a game, sometimes two. Everyone knows the rules and we get very few grumbles. We are thinking of getting a Sat 2nd XI for next season so things may get more tricky then.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2011, 08:14:19 AM »

Our selection committee meet on a Sunday night and the 1st XI get the best 11 players available - simples  :D
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2011, 08:17:25 AM »

Our skippers sometimes meet but not always as 1st xi skipper is really poor but he gets pick of the club but as a fair few won't play for him he usually just brings anyone in who will play
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2011, 08:20:29 AM »

out selection doesnt work.

we have 2 teams. 1st pick everyone they can. brief discussion between 1st and 2nds. 2nds pick theirs. 1sts steal a couple from the 2nds when a few guys arent available. 2nds moan and give us colts who havent played much. if players pull out the night before etc same happens. 1sts get a 14 year old who can field only. Not beneficial for the 1sts or the colt as its hard to give them much of a game.

we have discussed using a selection meeting but its hard to arrange with captains when most people have other things to do in the evenings
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2011, 08:29:03 AM »

5 teams, 1st choose their team, then seconds and 3rds, as their is not a big gap in terms of our 4ths and 5ths thats where most of the negotiation takes place, it is harder than it should be to get into the 4ths because the captain normally picks his mates
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2011, 08:42:32 AM »

It doesn't work at our club.

We have 2 teams, 1st team have a 'squad' if you like of 12. Only 1 game this year have we had out strongest team out. Normally we have 8/9 of that 12 available, so the phone call goes to the second team skipper who gives us the under 15's.

There are so many players in the second team that should be playing first, but prefer to play seconds as it easy to hit runs.

Team selection is something I'm dreading if I am made first team captain next year.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2011, 08:54:47 AM »

we have a selection committee chaired by our cricket manager and attended by all team captains. I'm lead to believe there is also a formal selection policy, which has guidelines on how teams should be picked - for example, the policy states that the 1st XI will always pick the strongest possible team, so no loaning players to the 2's for key matches. However, to paraphrase Mark Waugh, you have to remember the best team isn't necessarily the best 11 players.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2011, 09:04:11 AM »

It doesn't work at our club.

We have 2 teams, 1st team have a 'squad' if you like of 12. Only 1 game this year have we had out strongest team out. Normally we have 8/9 of that 12 available, so the phone call goes to the second team skipper who gives us the under 15's.

There are so many players in the second team that should be playing first, but prefer to play seconds as it easy to hit runs.

Team selection is something I'm dreading if I am made first team captain next year.

mirror image of ours. Its good to see we arent the only ones! Thats one reason i wont be captain. the other is no one does teas so i dont want to spend every saturday morning preparing for the game by making sarnies!
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2011, 09:14:07 AM »

In Leinster players are subject to union registrations which makes for alot of fun and games when clubs select players for the next months registrations form.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2011, 09:34:59 AM »

quite reassuring to see that we are not the only club that has issues with this. Really feel like the 1st XI should always have the choice of players. Think it is worth bringing up at our agm as suggested. I have calmed down now at least tho!
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2011, 09:48:12 AM »

Selection happens on a Tuesday after senior training. The following people attend:

- 1st XI C & VC
- 2nd XI C & VC
- 3rd XI C & VC
- Impartial Member (to write down etc)

1st XI chose the team they want first. Then 2nds, and finally what's left the 3rds get. Then the excuses forp layers only being able to play seconds because they are playing at home etc come out! Then about 3 changes happen before Saturday, and the 3rds end up with the drabs!

A team I used to play for in Leeds used to have a system whereby if you didn't bat above a certain position (and you were a batsmen) or you didn't bowl (and your a bowler) for two weeks then the next week you could play for the team below and open the batting for example.
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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2011, 09:58:03 AM »

Our selection is after Tuesday training, & is attended by the four captains, the Club Chairman & the Selection Chairman.

We always pick our strongest teams. To be honest most of the selection drama comes from the 3rd & Sunday teams. (3rds because it may mean dropping someone & them not getting a game at all & Sundays because getting the balance between developing young players/having a strong enough team to actually win)

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Re: How does team selection work at your club?
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2011, 10:12:41 AM »

We only have 2 teams at our club and it is done very clearly on "1st team get best, you get the rest" idea. There are about 14 "1st teamers" so if all 14 are available the 2nds get the other 3, however if less than 11 of them are available then the best 2nd team players are called up. Which means that our 1st team is doing very well however out 2nds are really struggling with the massive differences in ability the team has from one week to the next..

However the 1st team are in a position where they can't go down, and the lack of facilities mean they can't go up so hopefully some of them should drop down to the 2nd's and help us out of relegation.

Very strange for the 2nd team skipper to straight out refuse you any players, usually captains atleast try to compromise to get the best outcome for the club.
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