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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2011, 05:25:24 PM »

you obviously werent at lords when prior scored a big hundred against the Indians this summer. one of the best knocks I have watched live
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2011, 05:28:18 PM »

Nope.  I know what you're saying with regards to the perception that he scores important runs batting selflessly, but would he really be able to score heavily at 40-4 on a green top against a top attack?
Honestly i think he could the way he has batted in the last 18 months has been phenomenal.
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2011, 05:38:15 PM »

you obviously werent at lords when prior scored a big hundred against the Indians this summer. one of the best knocks I have watched live

"one" being the operative word!
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2011, 05:38:48 PM »

Honestly i think he could the way he has batted in the last 18 months has been phenomenal.

he's been a good team player in a good team - but as an all time great?  Not yet, probably not ever...
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2011, 05:42:16 PM »

No spinner, and they never took the field together...

Cork over Headley and Fraser anyway for me...

Injury prone - they played too much cricket, fraser lost his nip as a result and would've been a 90's great but for that. Headley's career was cut short just after him and gough ran through the aussies at the MCG in 1998. Cork would've played as an allrounder batting 7, stewart keeping and batting 6.Tuffers never had the support to put pressure on teams, but still won 2 test matches at the oval against the aussies and windies.
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #65 on: November 24, 2011, 05:47:44 PM »

Injury prone - they played too much cricket, fraser lost his nip as a result and would've been a 90's great but for that. Headley's career was cut short just after him and gough ran through the aussies at the MCG in 1998. Cork would've played as an allrounder batting 7, stewart keeping and batting 6.Tuffers never had the support to put pressure on teams, but still won 2 test matches at the oval against the aussies and windies.

Tufnell bottled it any time he bowled on a track that really suited him!

But as a mid-90s XI under modern selectorial and coaching regimes, the following, assuming a direct choice between Maynard and Cork for the last slot, would have been pretty decent:  Atherton, Stewart, Smith, Hick, Ramprakash, Maynard, Blakey (w), Cork, Gough, Caddick, Fraser, Tufnell
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2011, 06:49:20 PM »

he's been a good team player in a good team - but as an all time great?  Not yet, probably not ever...

I was never saying as an all time great i meant a top 15 of batsmen now
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Re: Best ever top 15 Test Batsmen.....
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2011, 06:52:44 PM »


I was never saying as an all time great i meant a top 15 of batsmen now

interesting question - open the floor on that one, though personally I can think of five better English batsmen...

...okay, two better English batsmen and three Saffers playing alongside them...
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