Topic: My New BAS Bats (Read 10900 times)

Chrissy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2009, 03:54:26 PM »

Love the bat on the left. The profile is ideal

. Also the willow is nice aswell.

SAF Bats · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:53:41 PM »

Quote from: yvk3103 on March 19, 2009, 10:44:56 AM

why do you say that Norb? I think the middle thought not as long as in a GT is quite meaty. But the damn thing pings like a rocket (especially the one with redwood)..

because of the edge size and spine height. It looks like Tom has said all edge....

yvk3103 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 23, 2009, 09:55:04 AM »

Yeah, these bats do not have concaving like the Newbery UZI or the Fusion bats. It is a more traditional profile. This makes the batmaker's skills even more praise worthy given that the bat has a dead weight of 2.9-2.10 with so much wood and a near perfect balance and amazingly light pick-up.

i think the debate about the stock shapes is not relevant as long as the bat picks-up well and feels good. The shaping and stickers are just cosmetic gratifications and selling points. (I find the English bats to be really good when it comes to the cosmetics, maybe something the Indian batmakers need to learn especially considering that they make the bats for some of the bigger names in cricket who get their stickers printed in India)

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:40:25 AM »

I disagree wholeheartedly that the shaping is just a cosmetic gratification. It matters to how the bat plays, which bits of the bats play well and how it picks up.

yvk3103 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:31:29 AM »

Tom, if you see some of the Adidas and Slaz bats the shaping is purely cosmetic.

What about woodworm??

I would agree with you on the GN scoops as they had a purpose behind them.

My comments are based more on the parallel drawn between my BAS and Newbery UZI C6. The BAS beats the UZI in pick-up and feel hands down (both are the same weight).

I had a UZI SPS at 2.9.5 and it had edges about half that on the BAS

Tom · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:46:57 AM »

I have not seen or used, or looked at any scientific tests on the Adidas or Slaz bats to say whether it makes a difference or not. I would guess though where the wood is makes a difference otherwise why are we all so edge/shape obsessed. Why do some players only buy bats with middles in certain positions? I would say it is because the shaping matters. Yes you may see a few gimmicky shapes added to make the bat look different, but I would still say that the Woodworm shaping out the side made a difference however miniscule.

I saw 20 or so Blasters in the sports markets in India which were not very impressive in either grain or pickup. In fact I didn't find any Indian brands bats impressive at all, hence why I didn't purchase any. In my opinion the bats they produce for the home market are inferior shape wise (and from what I have seen willow wise) than those they produce for the foreign markets.

You have obviously experienced different and it is good that we all find different things appealing.

yvk3103 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 23, 2009, 12:25:20 PM »

yeah you are correct in pointing out that the bats sold in India by all the big guys are not the same top quality as we get in the UK or ANZ or SA. The problem is that the willow they have to sue for the Indian conditions has to be very very robust and hard due to the quality of balls used, nature of the pitches and the weather conditions.

Also in India everyone was the white-est bat, so may companies bleach their willow.

I have never bought a bat off the shelf for the past 25 years since I started playing leagues in Delhi and got to know some of the bat manufacturers.

The only bat that I ever bough off the shelf was a MRF Genius LE which I had to buy during a away tour as my kit did not arrive. The bat was a exception to the above and turned out to be a belter. But this is rare and possible with the higher end contract made bats.

The kookaburra or Adidas or Puma bats that you get in India are no where near to the ones we see in the UK.

Its not that the batmakers in India cannot make different shapes. SS, SG, BAS make bats for some of the top brands in the market. I know that KPs bats till last season were made in India, Matt Hayden got bats made in India during the last Ind-Aus series. I know for sure about 14 international pros (not Indians) who get their bats made from SG, SS and BAS.

Bradbury bat were/are made in India also.

I find SG to have some very different profiles and shapes.

Majid_V3 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:55:56 PM »

What can I Say Again Great Bats Yash the bas millenium bats looks awesome

Talisman · « **Reply #23 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:18:47 PM »

Yash, the Newbery C6+ Uzi has a carbon handle which means that the extra wood in the blade will make the pick up heavier than a cane handle which has more weight in the handle. Plus the Newbery will have been air dried here rather than exposed to the hotter climate in India so again the over dried willow will look bigger than the Newbery.

yvk3103 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »

Totally agree with the first part. Not too sure on the second part of your explanation as the willow looks very fresh and has been softly pressed as requested.

SAF Bats · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:29:38 PM »

Some much stuff in this topic...

Balance on a stock shape bat is luck not judgement and it is not a testament to the bat makers skill.... If it specifically made then yep they may attempt to balance a bat for you....

If you like big edges and minimal middle then thats fine, it is preference but it begs the question why you went for a different style of bat in the UZI....

A softly press bat isn't the be all and end all. Looking at those bats, in my opinion, the heartwood one you would get away with pressing lighter but the 20/20 you wouldn't.

and a lot of Asian brands softly press there willow and I'm not sure it is done on purpose...

If willow looks very fresh it doesn't mean there isn't or hasn't had additional moisture taken from it.

yvk3103 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:46:12 AM »

Hi Norb and Mike, I am not an expert on willow or bat making like yourselves. I am just learing these things (which for me a never ending process).

For me to decide whether a bat is good for me or not is simply to go by the following parameters:
feel
pick-up and balance
cosmetics

The BAS score better on the first two and hence I am inclined to praise them.

However, this is an ongoing process for me. Maybe I will find a bat that I feel is better than the these 2 BAS bats......its just a matter of time

SAF Bats · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »

Quote

Hi Norb and Mike, I am not an expert on willow or bat making like yourselves. I am just learing these things (which for me a never ending process).

Mike is more of your bat makers, bat maker a Talisman as such

Watsontotty · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:36:47 PM »

The bats sold on the open Asian market are no where near the same quality as the ones produced for say the UK market and that is the reason you see so much cheap stuff on eBay etc. They buy the cheapest Asian market stuff and ship to the UK and mark the price up and try passing it off as ew grade 1 etc etc. Some of the Asian brands are now marking there bats to identify genuine English willow etc etc.

I'm a big fan of Bas and SS as I've used and still use both products now, our overseas player hit over 1000 runs in 12 games last season with a BAS Shadow and he said it was the best bat he had ever used, obviously he was a top class player but I've found them to be that good also. I have a new Bas Bow 20/20 and its as good if not better than any bat i can buy from a UK maker and at �100 cheaper, if anyone can prove me wrong then send me a bat to use and i will give it a fair and honest report but there wont be any takers I'm sure of that.

yvk3103 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2009, 09:10:56 PM »

BAS bats were used to great effect by 5 players from our 1st XI and 2 from our 2nd XI. They have returned back to me this season asking for bats for this season as they feel the bats present a great value for money and high quality to match some of the UK made bats.

I would tend to believe these guys as 3 of them play for Lords XI (so they are good players and therefore know what they are talking).

Author Topic: My New BAS Bats (Read 10900 times)

Chrissy

Re: My New BAS Bats

SAF Bats

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats

Tom

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats

Tom

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats

Majid_V3

Re: My New BAS Bats

Talisman

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats

SAF Bats

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats

SAF Bats

Re: My New BAS Bats

Watsontotty

Re: My New BAS Bats

yvk3103

Re: My New BAS Bats