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junter97

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Types of laminate bats
« on: March 28, 2012, 05:42:55 PM »

Seen as though we need to keep on topic in the lam wanted topic, I thought I'd start a new topic just discussion about different types of laminate cricket bats. So what type is best and why and how does the making of it differ to a normal lam
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 05:44:10 PM »

Seen as though we need to keep on topic in the lam wanted topic, I thought I'd start a new topic just discussion about different types of laminate cricket bats. So what type is best and why and how does the making of it differ to a normal lam

Thanks mate, was just abt to start a topic myself :)

What's the difference between a Lam and Performance Lam? Why/How do performance lams work? Considering how Lam's are illegal beacuse its 2 pieces of wood, what if you cut the back out of a bat and glued the same piece back on would that perfrom better too? or considered illegal? similar to repairing a bat where the back cracked!!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2012, 05:46:13 PM by tusharsehgal »
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 05:46:54 PM »

I think that a performance lam has two bit of wood that are pressed differently glued together to create a trampoline effect, so the outer face is softly pressed and has a hard pressed back so it creates a springboard, Im no expert though so I could be completely wrong
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 05:51:48 PM »

I find it interesting too that you can buy a laminated bat made by the same batmaker, and it looks exactly the same. But they apparently perform so differently.

What's the difference between the two? Why does that batmaker bother making the inferior laminates, for other forum suppliers, when it appears the same amount of willow and time goes into them? Is the manufacturing process much different?

I've not used a laminate extensively and don't know the effect on performance. But they're a fascinating species.
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 05:52:45 PM »

Have a read through this one as think it was all covered in there...

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=2157.msg89414;topicseen#msg89414
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 05:53:26 PM »

I would expect a contract supplier to make what is requested of them. The brand is who will determine what they can sell...
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 06:15:52 PM »

Like Tom suggests the bat maker does not make good and not so good lams. They are all excellent but I guess like any bat some perform better than others. I have just spoken to our bat maker and he had a number glued up ready to go. So he is going to take one of those for me and shape to to what I have asked for. I'm sure it will be fantastic as always.
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 06:46:56 PM »

Lamination is a term that covers many bats. As it goes my knowledge of them is that Surridge made them back in the 80's as a method of increasing the quantity of G1 faced bats as they were struggling money wise making in the UK when most had switched production overseas. Now speaking to John who was making and never gets any press but must be one of the top 5 most knowledgeable batmakers out there, no longer bat making he has given me an insight to the modern ones.

He knew John Newbery and they stumbled across the phenomenon of laminated bats playing very well, Gooch used one when scoring his 333 and indeed I owned and used one myself. Since then the main exponents of lamination have been Pakistani brands along the same principle of wanting to increase the number of top grade bats by planning the best clefts and gluing them to low grade rears. Again I have seen many and was gifted a very special one by Malik which is now in the hands of the Hosk. They had no higher performance than a standard bat but obviously the odd one flew.

As for the thin faced bats being all the same they are not. Why not? Because no matter who shapes them and presses them the original gluiyng is done by different people in different places. So we are back to the fact that they may look the same but they most definitely do not play the same. There is little call for them in reality.

The difference is inside, like looking at a car and not knowing if it has a 1.4L or a 3.0 V6 under the bonnet. I've been lucky to had access to the real ones for 6 years and only sold a couple a year. Like I said on the other topic if there is demand supply will appear, I see Malik are doing a thin faced version now, maybe I shouldn't have let them have a good look at mine...
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Re: Types of laminate bats
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 12:22:46 PM »

Ordered a couple last week and got them this morning.  One sold but have another still available. It is a stunning bat. Tendulkar profile with 11 perfect grains. Weighs 2lb 12 with grip and tie gaurd fitted. Dm or email if seriously interested and I will send over some pictures.
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