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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2012, 03:03:16 PM »

I would have preferred to have seen Woakes called up and england play a 5 man attack
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2012, 04:17:50 PM »

He doesn't fit in.  Swann and Broad can write derogatory comments in their autobiography's and read out tweets posted by their mates in the dressing room and no action is taken.

But a Daily Mail journalist alleges that KP text a SA player something derogatory and he's dropped, with little proof at all.

I think there is plenty of proof or they wouldn't be doing it. Kp knew he had gone too far hence his begging and in my opinion embarrassing YouTube video. Think broad and swann's behaviour no way comparable to what kp said in press conference followed by these text messages. The Ecb have taken the tougher decision and i applaud them and agree wholeheartedly. No man is bigger than team. Better players than kp don't behave or have behaved like him.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2012, 04:24:47 PM »


But a Daily Mail journalist alleges that KP text a SA player something derogatory and he's dropped, with little proof at all.

If the ECB don't know the content of these alleged text messages or indeed if those messages were actually sent then the ECB have effectively said that KP is guilty until proven innocent.  The South African management have said that the messages weren't sent to the players quoted in the article but they have acknowledged that messages were sent.

Reading and listening to the ECB statements it sounds as though KP needs to come out and publicly acknowledge that the text messages, if there were any, were not critical of Flower or Strauss before KP will be selected again and the ECB even delayed naming the squad to allow KP the opportunity to do so.

The whole sorry saga has been handled extremely poorly and I don't think the text messages can be the real reason KP has been dropped, if the alleged text messages are the reason for the dropping then KP isn't the only one with an ego......
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2012, 04:54:34 PM »

I think there is plenty of proof or they wouldn't be doing it. Kp knew he had gone too far hence his begging and in my opinion embarrassing YouTube video. Think broad and swann's behaviour no way comparable to what kp said in press conference followed by these text messages. The Ecb have taken the tougher decision and i applaud them and agree wholeheartedly. No man is bigger than team. Better players than kp don't behave or have behaved like him.
'he has failed to confirm that he did not send derogatory texts about Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower to South Africa players during the Headingley Test.

It was an allegation, according to England's managing director, Hugh Morris, that unless unproven undermined "a unity of purpose and trust.'

The allegation must be unproven (i.e it hasn't been proven, but they want him to prove he didn't) or at least that's how I read it.

Edit: I suppose reading this again - it may mean they've seen the texts, but don't have the phone records to 100% prove it's him. With him failing to refute them they're 99% certain.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2012, 04:56:31 PM »

Doesn't this more then remind everyone of the Peter Moores saga? One man believing everything should run around him... I Know someone mentioned Warne, but I'd argue he was a far more consistent performer than kp has been?
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2012, 05:22:42 PM »

Lets be honest here, we all have or have had team mates who we think aren't up to the standard, and have told our friends or other people that opinion, its not a crime to do so. For me, all 11 being best friends isn't important, and it does not, in my experience, usually doesn't happen. You don't have to like them all, nor even respect them, as long as you treat them in a proffessional manner and get on with the game. This has probably not been a secret within the dressing room for months, so why make a big deal of it now?

All KP wants to do is win, and if he believes some of his team mates are hindering those ambitions, why shouldn't he discuss this amongst friends (despite the "friends" being a little innappropriate)
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2012, 06:37:52 PM »

I don't buy that.

If it is proven he did send the texts, do you KP fans really believe he should be allowed to continue in the team?

I don't care if he is the best batsman, I would have dropped him, I can't see that they could play as a unit with his divisive influence in there.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2012, 12:38:42 AM »

Completely agree.

For me the most amazing thing about all this is the fact that one of the best batsmen of his generation, winner of 3 ashes series, t20 winner and player of the tournament, redefined batting, shot making etc, can still come across as such an unlikeable, selfish brat

Whoever is advising him really should have been ditched a long time ago.
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2012, 05:37:20 AM »

I've been a big fan of KP for years but he's really crossed a line here. The video was just propaganda as he knew he was going to be dropped.

It's a big call from England an shows some bravery. I have a horrible feeling it could be the end for KP or Strauss/flower. If England win then I dont see w way back for KP, however should they lose there is alot of pressure transformed to Strauss/flower (not just for dropping KP but looking back at a years test cricket England have hardly replicated previous form) plus thu won't be number 1 in the world. After all this aggro, could either of them jack it in? Especially if they have to pick KP again - interesting times ahead
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2012, 05:38:00 AM »

Excuse typos, damn fat fingers on my phone :-)
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #100 on: August 13, 2012, 07:45:38 AM »

Such a pity that a test series of this size has been over shadowed by KP and the ECB... Well here is hoping that England are not at the races this weekend and SA can get the win...  :D :D :D

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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2012, 08:43:26 PM »

Parody account annouced by Piers Morgan as @bailsthebadger

You'll see I called that on the 11th August - and that PiersMorgan followed me today. Coincidence?
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2012, 09:15:02 PM »

Parody account annouced by Piers Morgan as @bailsthebadger

You'll see I called that on the 11th August - and that PiersMorgan followed me today. Coincidence?

I think Liam mentioned he was followed by Piers as well...
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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2012, 10:17:20 PM »

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Re: KP having another hissy fit......
« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2012, 08:18:18 AM »

• Richard Bailey, a cricket fan from Nottingham, claimed responsibility last night for the “KP Genius” parody Twitter account that is said to have upset Kevin Pietersen. “When I saw it was potentially causing harm and upsetting folk, I shut it down,” Bailey said. “I would like to apologise to anyone ... involved with England Cricket who I may have put in an awkward or embarrassing position.”

Although this twitter account does seem an drop in the ocean to everything else that is going on...

The Saffa's should get the Sir Alex Fergerson Mind Games Award for the pressure they have added to this situation.
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