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Re: B3
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2012, 03:00:19 AM »

I like the site actually
specially it has the robotic/computerized feel with the Font styles - kind of promoting the machine part of your process
You and crictech make a perfect combo ;)

The Shipping is toooooooooo  much though
Max i have paid is 35 gbp but the site is asking for 60 gbp - pls fix that



 
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Re: B3
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2012, 06:10:16 AM »

I don't see what the difference is with this and with a bat bought from a brand on here who use Tim Keeley's cnc.

you speak to them agree a shape the bat is machined and presto...

sorry you get better deals on this forum than off that website and for me it isn't all that exciting.
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Re: B3
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2012, 06:29:30 AM »

Totally agree Buzzard, I couldn't have put it better myself
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Re: B3
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2012, 08:31:51 AM »

I would bet I've ordered more TK bats than anyone on this forum, but still get excited by the prospect of a buyer being able to 3d model a bat. Now whilst the execution can be improved, the concept I feel is vastly different to ringing up a forum sponsor who may/may not use Tim Keeley and asking for a shape down the telephone and hoping they understand.

The ability to play with edges, profiles and shapes is fun. Anyone who's used Nike ID can testify, it's fun to create the wildest and wackiest looking product. And the prospect of seeing and know what you're going to get before placing the order thanks to the 3d modelling, means there's no mis-understandings.

Aask anyone who's tried to order a 'Symonds' shape bat from TK, it's a shape which is on the machine 'somewhere' but he can't remember which one. With this tool, a buyer will have their profile and exact weight saved, and they can ring up or order and expect an almost exact copy of the bat they ordered last year. You can also speak directly to the men behind the machining, rather can going through a company, who will pass on the message to Nick, who will pass on the message to Tim.

And Jnr bats getting the same service too. Even TK doesn't do that, Newbery outsouce their production to SA and India.
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Re: B3
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2012, 08:39:56 AM »

I agree with Tom, it cuts out the middle man effectively. I was disappointed by prices though - I guess a fully bespoke service for less than £200 might appeal, but the idea of their 3rd tier of willow does not.

I guess it might depend on how much input you have to picking your cleft.

Is there a guide to their willow grading on the site? I looked at the site briefly the other day.

Look forward to the CI boys doing some in depth coverage of the end to end process
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Re: B3
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM »

All I know is I can not pay for one it just will not let me

I love the idea yes some fine tuning and I guess there onto a winner

Maybe I am a bit of a bat nerd but this feeds that and is different indeed I fully expect to receive what I order.

What a refreshing way to do things for a person like me who can not just travel to mainland it gives me a chance to get what I want in a profile I want in a weight


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Re: B3
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2012, 08:50:24 AM »

Right, here's the tricky bit of this one for me. Cadcam systems are not cheap, so you need volume to cover cost, and finishing will still be difficult without doing some by hand. This leads me to believe that you won't get any real price differentials and you them have to ask who does I it better? A podshaver you visit and who makes it in front of you our the cnc that makes it to your specs?
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Re: B3
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2012, 08:55:29 AM »

....so why not design you bat using B3, then print out the designs and take to the podshaver of your choice to make the design in grade 1 willow for £100 cheaper? :o
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Re: B3
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2012, 09:01:18 AM »

Plus one thing has been missed here. Judge them on cost once you have the finished product in your hand.

You never know it could be something worth the money...

And i agree with procricket, i think once they (B3) have had time to catch breath and revisit certain aspects, a little polish and its a good idea with appeal and huge potential too. Especially to people outside this forum.

Yes you maybe able to get TK to make different shapes and alike, but even here who does? Each week there's chatter about a new bat and the next 10 posts comment that its just someone else's with different stickers and that it comes from TK.

They have made a solid and good contribution to keeping on their toes and for that fair play. i have my opinions on certain aspects but until there is a bat in my hands i'll hold judgement on how well priced they are or where they fit in the grand scheme of things.



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Re: B3
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2012, 09:02:22 AM »

Because of this
Hate to say this but I can and do get grade 1 bats made rot my spec for a little less than 200 pound all made in front of me from start to finish the willow of my choice and everything

I see everybody going mad on this forum about certain deals where if you look around there cheaper on other websites without the so called deals

Because there is choice beyond this forum and I want to try something new out something not made by tk enterprise

This is it it may not be 3 stripe for me but I suspect because of the unique way in my eyes of this I guess i willing to give it a go being a bat nerd

Infact johnny not a totally daft idea
« Last Edit: August 31, 2012, 09:22:34 AM by procricket »
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Re: B3
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2012, 09:37:54 AM »

I'm not questioning the product. I suspect it is unlikely to be rubbish. I'm wondering about the process and the cost in the buying decision given the view that people have that automation equates to reduced cost!

More to the point, if there was no mention of cnc, and the b3 pitch was "You design the bat and we make it to the millimetre", would we even be having this conversation?
« Last Edit: August 31, 2012, 09:39:47 AM by tim2000s »
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Re: B3
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2012, 09:43:33 AM »

Isn't the 'bespoke' option with most companies all a bit smoke and mirrors anyway? Surely they just pick whatever cleft they have in the yard that mostly resembles your request then call it 'made for you'! Seen a few in my time that have not even closely resembled the requested specs of the owner (after all, there's only so many shapes around)...

If this process had some guarantee that it would genuinely be yours (and made only for you) from start to finish (and they get a reputation for doing so) then it could work.
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Re: B3
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2012, 09:50:31 AM »

At least they're honest about their process unlike a lot of companies. The price is a little tasty but, like a few others, I'm going to reserve judgement until I see the finished article.

As I said on another thread and as Tom has mentioned here, I would feel a lot more comfortable ordering a 'bespoke' bat from a company like this who are honest about what they do than a 'brand' who's bespoke service amounts to nothing more than passing on your requirements to someone else who then passes it on to someone else who then taps it into a machine.....that's just chinese whispers....you'll never get exactly what you want however well intentioned the brand is.

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Re: B3
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2012, 11:44:44 AM »

Wasn't there a bat being sold here for 400 odd GBP a short while back? and it did sell...person who got had no say in the design, so in that sense B3 is better...although I do think it would be nice to have the prices come down a little so more ppl can afford it.....
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Re: B3
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2012, 12:05:13 PM »

One thing I dont like about this is that it isn't truly custom. They'll have all the many options possible already made up. Like all that P1 E1 S1 is already done they'll just choose the one that matches what you asked for.
Still interesting to see how they get on though
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