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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2012, 08:15:26 PM »

he doese soem good videos him, there is a someone on here going for net with him. Maybe we can ask him for some tips.

His new method is talking about turning in the book foot and leading with the shoulder being more important than the head.
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 08:19:42 PM »

another good article ...gary palmer involved again

http://www.pitchvision.com/9-traits-of-world-class-batsmen-that-anyone-can-copy
 
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 06:47:02 AM »

In the modern game, it is necessary to move back and across. One can move slightly back and across before placing more weight on the back foot while ensuring that the head is kept forwards.This gives several advantages. First, it gives the batter a good indication of the position of the off-stump. With the modern emphasis of bowling in a channel on and just outside off-stump, a batter must have some means of knowing when to let the ball pass to the wicket keeper. Second, the batter is already in a partial back foot position. Short-pitched fast bowling is the norm today. Therefore, it pays to be biased towards the back foot position before the ball is delivered. From this position, the batter can move further back if the ball is short without compromising the ability to move forward if the ball is pitched up, because there is extra weight placed on the back foot. Third, for most deliveries that are played on the front foot, the front leg has to travel slightly to the left of the line of the ball. By moving back and across, the front foot is inside the line of the back foot. This tends to minimise the effect of the front foot moving too early, which usually results in the front foot moving outside the line of the back foot, and unless the ball is pitched on off-stump or wider, causes the batter to play across the front pad. This increases the likelihood of an lbw dismissal. Fourth,  the batter is in a more balanced position because the area of base support is increased. Fifth, leg-side play is enhanced because the front foot is on the left side of the back foot, providing the ideal position from which to play balls on or around leg stump. And, finally, the elevated hip line (right lateral pelvic rotation) is a source of stored energy, which can be released during the downswing to generate bat speed.

Not my words by the way.... Past Sri Lankan Batting coach
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 07:26:36 AM »

Sure I get that, but you are comparing international batsman with international bowlers and professional practice sessions to club batsmen and club bowlers who hardly practice.

A good trigger take 1000's of balls to get right. Get it wrong and you look like Ravi Bopara.

For a club player against club bowling standing still will improve 99% of batsmen
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2012, 07:37:04 AM »

Ravi who? Haha  ;)
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2012, 07:43:46 AM »

does anyone have a you tube video of someone coaching this back and across movement?
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 07:48:51 AM »

does anyone have a you tube video of someone coaching this back and across movement?


Here is one quick one

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVw41iYAmZA
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2012, 07:55:31 AM »

Another with common errors.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVw41iYAmZA
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 09:46:13 AM »

For a club player against club bowling standing still will improve 99% of batsmen

And it certainly won't make any of them an appreciably worse player!
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2013, 01:14:33 PM »

How did you get on with this?

Did you change anything? Have you improved?

I'm having problems with this at the moment, plant the front foot, then when the ball is on leg stump I am falling towards off when trying to hit it.

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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2013, 05:23:42 PM »

I have adjusted my stance. i stand more upright now. i feel it has helped.


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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2013, 06:07:05 PM »

try to hold your front leg back as long as possible and take a smaller stride.

try on driving it or practicing the on drive, it will help your leg side shots
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2013, 06:09:21 PM »

In the modern game, it is necessary to move back and across. One can move slightly back and across before placing more weight on the back foot while ensuring that the head is kept forwards.This gives several advantages. First, it gives the batter a good indication of the position of the off-stump. With the modern emphasis of bowling in a channel on and just outside off-stump, a batter must have some means of knowing when to let the ball pass to the wicket keeper. Second, the batter is already in a partial back foot position. Short-pitched fast bowling is the norm today. Therefore, it pays to be biased towards the back foot position before the ball is delivered. From this position, the batter can move further back if the ball is short without compromising the ability to move forward if the ball is pitched up, because there is extra weight placed on the back foot. Third, for most deliveries that are played on the front foot, the front leg has to travel slightly to the left of the line of the ball. By moving back and across, the front foot is inside the line of the back foot. This tends to minimise the effect of the front foot moving too early, which usually results in the front foot moving outside the line of the back foot, and unless the ball is pitched on off-stump or wider, causes the batter to play across the front pad. This increases the likelihood of an lbw dismissal. Fourth,  the batter is in a more balanced position because the area of base support is increased. Fifth, leg-side play is enhanced because the front foot is on the left side of the back foot, providing the ideal position from which to play balls on or around leg stump. And, finally, the elevated hip line (right lateral pelvic rotation) is a source of stored energy, which can be released during the downswing to generate bat speed.

Not my words by the way.... Past Sri Lankan Batting coach

i have been preaching this for months, i was taught it by two prominent former west indian batsmen from the 80's but it seems that cricket is stuck in its ways a bit like the high jump before the fosbury flop ....
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2013, 06:11:49 PM »

please will someone explain to me how moving back and across will help someone who plants their front foot?

thanks

I must admit Buzz, I have now taken the back and across out of my stance, and stay still until the ball is bowled, feeling a lot better this season than last for it as well!
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Re: Planting my front foot
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2013, 06:15:59 PM »

to answer the question above.

you are back and across and your weight is mostly on your back foot with the tip of the front foot touching. it allows you to hold your front leg in longer and keeps your head from tipping over
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