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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 08:45:19 AM »

You have no business umpiring the great game if you are going to cheat.

I don't like giving teammates out, but its part of the game.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 08:49:54 AM »

I absolutely hate scoring so go out and umpire. If your out your out, simples!!!
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2012, 09:13:39 AM »


fairly sure some of our youngsters go the other way and are more likely to give their mates out...
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2012, 11:20:58 AM »

I absolutely hate scoring so go out and umpire. If your out your out, simples!!!

Do you guys still use manual scoring sheets? we use the ipad/ipod version of total cricket scorer...once you learn how to setup teams etc its really easy to use and you can see graphs etc while scoring makes it a lot of fun :)
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2012, 11:21:31 AM »

I take the usual process! And if I have gone through everything (including left handed bowlers/line of run in, etc) and then the obvious height, turn, distance hit from wicket, etc, etc! and if I can't find any doubt, then the finger goes up! Their team, my team, who cares! If it's out then I would hate to cheat! After all, there is no point in 'winning' a match when you know that you should have given out to a couple of your players! Then it becomes a farse!

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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2012, 11:26:08 AM »

I remember a match when the opposition 'won' the match and their best batsman knicked one the the keeper and their umpire (the other teams captain) didn't hear a thing! The rest of their team at the boundary heard the knick so maybe he had a hearing problem!!  :(
Then their next best batsman was absolute plumb LBW taking a step back to the stumps, dead in front and squared up, and got hit on the ankle from a ball that stayed low! The ;umpire' reckons that the batsman was too far down the wicket to tell!  >:(
By that time, the game had turned a little nasty and it made the game not enjoyable! I (for one) avoided shaking hands with the captain and the guy who knicked it, making my feeleings obvious!
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2012, 11:50:45 AM »

fairly sure some of our youngsters go the other way and are more likely to give their mates out...
Opposition tend to try and pressure young umpires into making decisions. I find it's sometimes the case that a decision which should've been not out are given because the umpire feels pressured into giving it.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2012, 12:11:27 PM »

Opposition tend to try and pressure young umpires into making decisions. I find it's sometimes the case that a decision which should've been not out are given because the umpire feels pressured into giving it.

Unfortunately you do see quite a bit of that, to the extent that it is very obvious that there are far more appeals when youngsters are umpiring than when they are not.
I think that we are mainly talking LBW here, and the one that used to grate with me, Re: do you give your mates out? Was that if you weren't one of 'the mates' you were in increased danger of a dodgy LBW, simply to keep the stats up and make them look even handed!
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2012, 12:22:29 PM »

In tour game a few years ago, one of our players gave another out to a ridiculous LBW. The guy umpiring knew he was on 49 - which may have influenced his decision.

Unfortunately the bat didnt take it in good jest, and the 2 ended scuffling on the pitch. One of the oppo players was dutch player van Troost - pretty sure he hadnt seen anything like it before.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2012, 01:13:18 PM »

Easiest way to avoid umpiring - stay in!  Don't mind umpiring, any opportunity to trigger my team mates lol. Seriously, if it's out it's out. Benefit of the doubt is fair enough if you are the same for both sides.

I've seen so much cheating in the Wetherby League, we once went 6 games without an LBW because oppo teams wanted to beat us by any means possible. It turns the game into a farce and cheats win.

Umpires in the Wetherby aren't any better. Get £30 a game to moan like hell and give shocking decisions. More than once last season both teams agreed they could do a better job!
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2012, 06:08:17 PM »

I remember playing in a work league and there umpire didnt give any wides, when there were practically on another wicket.

Our Captain (my boss) just told him to get off the wicket and get someone else out to umpire who wont cheat.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2012, 07:36:18 PM »

Mistakes will happen, but I've always maintained the philosophy that an umpire only gets a chance to make a mistake once a batsman makes several. You get hit on the pad near the stumps instead of using the bat or go swinging and missing outside off..... Any mistake the umpire makes is on you. You wont get lbw hitting it though midwicket or caught behind pushing it through cover.

I think its important to walk when your mate is umpiring too.... If you don't walk, its your mate who will wear it for cheating.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2012, 09:50:23 PM »

Got triggered this year by our mate in a crunch game, right arm round to a right hander, pitched half a mile outside leg and hit me in the crown jewels. Safe to say we didn't chat much after the game but that's cricket.

Firm believer that if it's out, then you go. I don't care if it's your brother standing at the other end. Rules are rules eh boys?
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 11:26:59 AM »

I remember getting triggered by one of our umpires the one time when the ball went clean through 'the gate' and I swear it touched absolutely nothing, not bat or pad (so you can see my technical deficiencies straight away!). Anyway, there was a noise, the keeper pouched it, there was an appeal and I was gone. I asked the ump about it after the game and he said 'you were plumb LBW'. However, the keeper was equally convinced that he had taken a catch. What I actually think happened was that the ball tickled the stumps without knocking the bails off, hence the noise. I think it was also down as caught in the scorebook. TBH I wasn't too dischuffed (well maybe a bit) these things do happen, and when you've got to go, you've got to go.
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Re: Do you give your mates out?
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 11:33:38 AM »

Firm believer that if it's out, then you go. I don't care if it's your brother standing at the other end. Rules are rules eh boys?

funny you should mention it because I gave my brother out playing no shot. It was at Buckingham and there was a slope on the track running downhill towards the off side. A few nipped away down the slope so he thought he would be clever and leave the next one. Only for it to come back up the hill and hit him in front of all three. Don't think he spoke to me for a week lol
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