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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2013, 06:40:14 PM »

Think the principles are still the same though?  Start off with a plan in mind, ease your way back in and gradually build up the intensity towards the season?  As for the review - it doesnt need to take that long, for some lads they will spend an hour or so looking at their video footage, others just five minutes - whereas other players its as simple as having a beer after and reflecting on how well you hit the ball and how you could strike it better next week?  I guess its the old Plan, Do, Review?!  There isnt anything new under the sun - just different ways of re-inventing the wheel
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2013, 06:46:09 PM »

Fair play to you if you have time for all that, sounds a very professional set-up

I play 2 tiers below an ECB Prem and it's difficult enough (for various reasons) to get a couple in my side to turn up to nets consistently and play 20 league games a season. If they were asked to meet up midweek to review their performance they'd think I was having a laugh!
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2013, 07:44:46 PM »

out of sheer interest. If a club ran 'proper' sessions over the winter (say from November onwards) and say asked for the yearly membership fee upfront if you want to make use of the nets.. Would something like that attract YOU to the club?? Would it attract you to send your child to them etc etc (assume the 'coaching' is decent for the sake of this post).

So each net session lasts for 2 hours, 5 lanes and 3 Bowling machines available.
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2013, 07:47:35 PM »

Our nets start at the beginning of November. The colts have a level 2 coach and we have two nets. It gets a reasonable turn out and helps engender club spirit in the off season.
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »

out of sheer interest. If a club ran 'proper' sessions over the winter (say from November onwards) and say asked for the yearly membership fee upfront if you want to make use of the nets.. Would something like that attract YOU to the club?? Would it attract you to send your child to them etc etc (assume the 'coaching' is decent for the sake of this post).

So each net session lasts for 2 hours, 5 lanes and 3 Bowling machines available.

We already have a system at my club where you pay membership fee and match fees up front for an overall saving. I would like some time with a coach though, I know what I need to work on just not quite sure how to best go about it
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2013, 11:23:09 PM »

The main reason I ask is basically all the clubs in this area don't actually seem to run anything over the winter and nearer the season they appear to just be normal nets. So my thinking is in a year or so I'll be in a position to help my club out financially and rather than give them money I'd like to say set up decent nets. Main aim to improve everyone at the club with a secondary aim of pushing the club as 'the best club to go to improve' and one where youths parents want them to be as it's best for them etc.
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2013, 11:34:06 PM »

I don't have children yet but in the past I have seen two county youth players leave my previous club at their parents say-so to get some exposure to better coaching, which is understandable

One of these kids is now playing a division above me (and has had runs and wickets) at the age of 14 and I will be very surprised if he doesn't represent the full County side in the future. He has undoubtedly benefited from proper coaching

The other is now 20 and has had a couple of net sessions with us but not played serious cricket for 2 seasons, after quite obviously falling out of love with the game. The last division he played properly in was below the league of the club he left to get better. He is living proof that being pushed hard by parents when young does not always benefit everyone
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2013, 11:37:42 PM »

no, doesn't work for everyone. I've said before though that I'm not a believer in 'lvl's'. I reckon even up in the ECB prem teams you will have 1 or 2 in each team who actually wouldn't look 'awesome' one or two divisions below etc. All teams have passengers, it's only in the bad times though you work out who the passengers are.

Yes 'pushy parents' are not always the best but I'm thinking it might be a way to improve the general standard of everyone AND help promote more people to join the club etc. Means you should be able to put out more youth teams, more adult teams.. means more people using the bar, paying subs etc etc.

That's the idea anyway. Still only a plan in my head though currently.
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2013, 11:40:27 PM »

Parents will always want the best for their kids I'm sure, whether they want the coaching or not!
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2013, 11:42:10 PM »

I'm not that interested in youths though tbh, I'd like to find out the best ways to attract adults in the 20 to 30 yr old bracket. These are the guys who will actually do the business now etc.

Ways to attract them is the priority. What do people look for? What would make you move clubs etc?
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2013, 11:49:22 PM »

From my experience creating a solid youth set up is far more beneficial in the long term stability of a cricket club. As its mainly a non profit sport an effective youth set up with coaching can pay for itself and give the club a steady stream of playing members for years to come. Attracting settled or unsettled players can be an absolute pain as they either want money or a better role at the club to what they currently have. Also youngsters playing with each other for 3-4 years before they enter men's cricket instantly generates a team spirit in most case anyway.
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2013, 11:53:26 PM »

I moved clubs after 10 seasons quite simply because I could see a much brighter future on and off the field elswhere. It helped that the club I moved to was my hometown club and historically a bigger club too.

Having structured net sessions will do you no harm atall. All you need then is a good eye for talent and a good sales pitch to get some potential new players to attend  ;)
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2013, 12:06:10 AM »

Hmmm this thread has gone off at all sorts of different tangents I wasn't expecting! Glad it provoked some debate and thanks to those that offered advice  :)
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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2013, 01:21:42 AM »

3) Sledging is worse today than it's ever been (he said it's always been there but it's more 'personal and aggressive' now.

oh and the sledging is pathetic, banter between yourselves is fine but why people feel the need to attack me personally I don't know. Sod off and play your own game fellas.

I prefer mind games over direct attacks when I'm sat behind the stumps. 'Has he changed his backlift lads?' - helps to get the batsman thinking about anything but hitting the next ball.

If I receive the personal attacks when batting I normally ignore it, total blank, however if I do respond it's usually along the lines of "you're mistaking me for someone who gives a _____ mate"

Our winter nets start next week, being a batsman it will be nice to face some of our better bowlers for a challenge. But overall I feel I get more benefit out of the bowling machine in the shop, there are plenty of pie checkers at my club, myself included.

Our biggest problem is numbers, we have a general club net on sundays, which is all but a waste of time for the first team in terms of improvement/a challenge. It's a good social meet though and I'm not one for being elitist at all. Being on the committee, we've set a goal to get our 2nd team up the leagues to make the jump from 2's to 1's easier when we need to take a player. They are never going to understand the standard required if none of us are netting with them, which is why i try to always attend. i would say only about half of the first team squad go to these regularly though. And as I said, numbers can be an issue, we lost money on these last year.

We also have 1st team nets on Wednesday evenings. It's a loose term as we usually invite some of the more promising youngsters too, to get a good look at them. The numbers for these are smaller obviously, but higher in terms of a percentage of the people invited.

We generally just have a 'fast' net and a 'slow/spin' net. The 2 batsmen then swap halfway through. Myself, robin and a couple of other senior players try to offer some advice, especially with the kids.

I think most of us regard them as a social meet more than anything, numbers are decent to start with, then drop off a little before basically everyone turns out for the final couple of sessions, trying to get a game in a friendly before the season starts. The problem is retaining interest in the middle period when everyone's got to know each other again but the season isn't quite looming enough to make people think they HAVE to net.

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Re: Winter nets setup
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2013, 01:28:38 AM »

Completely agree with the mind games Jake, last season me and a couple of lads at slip were commenting on the batsmens gap between bat and pad. 'Oooo big gap there lads' etc etc, and a couple of batsmen got out between bat and pad bowled. I'm not sure if it was the mind games that were working mind :)
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