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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #90 on: December 07, 2013, 08:13:46 PM »

Think Johnson liked getting Anderson out this morning as well :D
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2013, 09:51:17 PM »

I would Always pick mitch over Anderson he is looking better with every match!!! His bowling coach must be very pleased with himself and it would be nice to hear what Saker is telling Anderson!!!!!
really.....? he's had two very good games. but lets not forget he was no where to be seen last summer! where as Anderson has been a consistent performer for years.
I also think when 500+ is on the board its a massive physiological factor, I'm pretty sure a bowler is going to be far more relaxed when the team have scored big runs. Taking nothing away from Johnson but lets not get carried away   
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2013, 09:55:43 PM »

The myth of James Anderson being anything other than a try harder continues to confuse me.

Anderson isn't a great bowler. Only in 2010 and 2011 has Anderson ever averaged below 26 runs per wicket.

Pat for the course for Anderson is an average of 30. Which he's been hovering around in 2012 and 2013.

Without a raging greentop, Anderson is just cannon fodder.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2013, 10:00:36 PM »

I'm sure sky were saying that both players stats were similar and Johnson was comparable AT&T his stage to Jeff Thompson (never saw him but reputation says he was pretty good!)


Personally Johnson can be devastating But can you really see him doing much if a few batsmen just resolved to see him off  ?? Anderson is more accurate and can swing it about but if the conditions don't suit he's more just a stock bowler keeping it tight.

Both are different bowlers, with different roles within a team (more than the basic 'bowler=take wickets).

IMO he's a little over rated (Anderson) but is/was capable of some world class performances. He's no Steyn though!
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2013, 10:03:32 PM »

The myth of James Anderson being anything other than a try harder continues to confuse me.

Without a raging greentop, Anderson is just cannon fodder.

Really? Think that's a little harsh, see, to remember him bowling very well in India, also not bad in India and his not exactly bowling badly in Aus, not the greatest but not bad.

Every now and then a steyn comes along but take him out of the equation then I would say Anderson in the best fast bowler in the world based on results over a 24month period.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2013, 10:07:07 PM »

Really? Think that's a little harsh, see, to remember him bowling very well in India, also not bad in India and his not exactly bowling badly in Aus, not the greatest but not bad.

Every now and then a steyn comes along but take him out of the equation then I would say Anderson in the best fast bowler in the world based on results over a 24month period.
Steyn aside.

Harris, Siddle, Philander are all better than Anderson.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2013, 10:09:09 PM »

Really? Think that's a little harsh, see, to remember him bowling very well in India, also not bad in India and his not exactly bowling badly in Aus, not the greatest but not bad.

Every now and then a steyn comes along but take him out of the equation then I would say Anderson in the best fast bowler in the world based on results over a 24month period.

Bumble also said something I agree with 'fast' is 90+.. Not 83 ish Anderson is a. Dry skillful bowler and he bowled quite well today as the ball is moving. He's no mug but not in the same class as Steyn etc so I wouldn't call him world class, I'd say and always have he's one of the best exponents of swing on the international stage. World class is vastly overused in all sports as there are very few world class players around !!
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2013, 11:03:42 PM »

world class means to me, a player would get into any other team in the world. At the moment I am not sure Anderson would.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2013, 11:06:33 PM »

world class means to me, a player would get into any other team in the world. At the moment I am not sure Anderson would.

Fair enough. World class means so many different things to different people.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2013, 11:20:48 PM »

world class means to me, a player would get into any other team in the world. At the moment I am not sure Anderson would.
On current form he's looking fairly innocuous and given his age he might be discarded into the wilderness after a couple of bad tests, think Matthew Hoggard...
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2013, 11:23:12 PM »

You guys are certainly harsh.... 6 months ago you were all saying how great Anderson is.... 1 poor test performance and he is ready for the scrap yard???
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2013, 11:29:14 PM »

You guys are certainly harsh.... 6 months ago you were all saying how great Anderson is.... 1 poor test performance and he is ready for the scrap yard???
As I said in my above post - think Matthew Hoggard
Certainly wouldn't be the first time someone was discarded after one bad game
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2013, 08:45:49 AM »

Hoggard and Anderson both similar types of bowler. If conditions are in their favour then very good performers. Thing is, if you drop Anderson, who is waiting in the wings to come in? Neither Finn, Rankin or Tremlett have impressed in their time in down under.
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2013, 08:47:20 AM »

Genuinely cannot believe people are talking of getting rid of Anderson. It's exactly that sort of selection mentality which screwed England for most of the 90's. I think it's a shame this football style mentality to selection etc is creeping into cricket
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Re: James Anderson vs Mitchell Johnson
« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2013, 09:09:16 AM »

Genuinely cannot believe people are talking of getting rid of Anderson. It's exactly that sort of selection mentality which screwed England for most of the 90's. I think it's a shame this football style mentality to selection etc is creeping into cricket

Not saying he should be dropped but he's 31, showing signs of age .. England should have already identified his replacement and be given them game time when against the crap of world cricket
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