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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 12:28:13 PM »

It amazes me that the best willow is willow grown in England. It seems such a small area to be supplying the world of willow. With today's modern technologies you would have thought it was possible to recreate the English climate and perfect willow growing properties in an artificial facility.

To a degree it is the same with viticulture - you can grow grapes in a wide variety of climates, but some produce better wine than others. With wine it can come down to micro-climate, soil and even fungus. In theory it is possible to re-create some of these factors artificially, but the result is not quite the same as nature. I'd suggest it is the same thing with willow.
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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2013, 12:40:16 PM »

Thanks for clearing that up.

what are the prices of the OZBlades like?


Can't remember off the top of my head mate, its been a quite a while since I've been to his shop. His website also seems to be down at the moment, not sure why. Heres the address if you want to check it out once it is working again, http://www.fisherbats.com.au
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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2013, 01:14:37 PM »

the question really is about climate i guess because the main manufacturers in India are located in punjab which is a

bit cooler than the climate in the south.

but bats in australia are expensive though. I remember just checking a website and the Dilshan CA 12000 was for

close to $800! that's a markup of more than $500 that you can get that bat directly from Pakistan.

I remember Fisher bats were on eBay a while back probably 5 or 6 years ago. They were going for around AUS $300

What about Bellingham and Smith in South Africa? i think they have their own farm. And there was an article that

even Canadian trees may be suitable for making cricket bats but unfortunately we are not so much into cricket

although bradman came to vancouver and claimed that the Stanley park cricket ground is the most scenic he had

seen in the world

B&S import all their willow from JS Wright.

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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2013, 12:15:56 AM »

funny thing is i saw Levi and kamran akmal using B and S (with abbreviation) bats and i obviously thought

that they were the same brand. It turns out that there is another manufacturer in Pakistan which is

"Babar Sports"

There is also some legal issues going on with SS (Stuart and Surridges) and SS (Sareen Sports)
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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2013, 05:34:44 AM »

There is also some legal issues going on with SS (Stuart and Surridges) and SS (Sareen Sports)
around the use of SS Name in UK alone or in other places too?

This might explain the <UGLY>TON bats in UK. lol
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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2013, 08:26:43 PM »

It's around the SS name in general

You don't see alot of Stuart Surridge bats nowadays but back in the 70's and 80's they were

quite common. EX. Graham gooch and Viv Richards...

And you don't see Duncan Fearnley at all
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Re: English willow in the subcontinent
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2013, 08:29:53 PM »

GM make their bats for the UK (and I assume Australian) market here in the UK. You are correct, they license India made bats for the Asian market.

English willow nurtured in India or EWNI is baby trees shipped over and planted in India to grow there for most of their life. At best the bats the are made into perform at a substandard level compared to a proper English willow bat, which grew for its entire life in the UK. At worst they will be indecipherable from a Kashmir willow bat.

Generally, if a bat has genuine, originally applied stickers from a reputable brand, and is labelled as English willow, it will be.

I thought Ewni is just a phrase for Kashmir willow full stop I wasn't aware of young saplings going there is there any lit in all this I was sure it was just Kashmir with a name to confuse people

Stuart surridge nearly dies I think warren Hogg owns them now and there based in burnley they mainly do teamwear now.


As for Fearnley there still around and doing various bit and for others
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