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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #390 on: March 22, 2013, 10:39:14 PM »

Goodness, you can see why test cricket around the world is on its (No Swearing Please). This is dreadful, the test series in the West Indies is a joke, and the series in India isn't far off a joke. Roll on the IPL I say.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #391 on: March 22, 2013, 10:43:45 PM »

Is Mary Whitehouse monitoring this forum. Since when has another word for a persons bottom been deemed swear word. Lol.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #392 on: March 22, 2013, 10:49:43 PM »

Ross Taylor smashes two boundaries then goes working a left arm spinner to mid wicket, against the spin.... Village that!! He's better than that rubbish.  Set them up and knock them down Monty.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #393 on: March 22, 2013, 10:54:57 PM »

Dull pitch, dull cricket - no magic spark from England, no bristling intent from NZ.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #394 on: March 22, 2013, 11:02:57 PM »

I really like Monty as a cricketer, but I would find it hard to defend him here if someone said he was average. He is relying on the batter making a massive mistake, not spinning them out.
I want him to be one of the best spinners in the world but he is not. Why is that? Is it that he needs more variation?
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #395 on: March 22, 2013, 11:07:42 PM »

Average catch from Prior? ;)
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #396 on: March 22, 2013, 11:09:49 PM »

What a catch  :o
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #397 on: March 22, 2013, 11:14:31 PM »

I take catches like that in my sleep. After 6 pints. And a kebab.

Back to Monty, he seems to be stuck in 'contain' mode and as has been pointed out before, needs a helpful track to get a haul of wickets. In my mind he is a player who knows that he is 2nd choice and so doesn't have the confidence to bounce back after a couple of bare innings.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #398 on: March 22, 2013, 11:16:54 PM »

Are there any left arm spinners that have "the one that goes the other way"?
Loads of off spinners have a ball that goes away from the bat, not sure i have seen a leftie with one that turns back into the right hand bat.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #399 on: March 22, 2013, 11:22:41 PM »

Shillingford and Ashwin both have superb Doosra's, I've thought Monty has always bowled the same regardless of how the pitch is playing. Was it Warne that said he would bowl different speeds depending on each individual pitch? Monty seems to bowl 55mph regardless. 
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #400 on: March 22, 2013, 11:23:03 PM »

I think Monty may lose ground this summer if Borthwick, Briggs or Kerrigan can make any strides forward this summer.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #401 on: March 22, 2013, 11:33:31 PM »

Shillingford and Ashwin both have superb Doosra's, I've thought Monty has always bowled the same regardless of how the pitch is playing. Was it Warne that said he would bowl different speeds depending on each individual pitch? Monty seems to bowl 55mph regardless.
Exactly what I mean. Is it a physiological reason why slow left armers don't bowl a doosra, or just that no one has developed one? I guess there is greater motivation in an off spinner getting one to go away from right hand bat than for a SLA to get one to turn in.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #402 on: March 22, 2013, 11:45:21 PM »

I agree, as an ex-SLA myself, the wrong 'un can just turn into the pad. A better ball was an arm ball that you could stick up outside off-stump and that swung in late.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #403 on: March 22, 2013, 11:50:27 PM »

With the volume of lefties in international top orders it might not be long until a SLA has the motivation to invent a ball that goes the other way. Would be good to see.
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Re: England vs New Zealand Tests
« Reply #404 on: March 22, 2013, 11:53:46 PM »

Perhaps a better ball for the SLA is the one that is angled in towards the stumps and that skids on to claim the LBW?
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