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[Manormanic]

A few obvious differences though - Robson has not as yet been routinely exposed by all types of bowlers in all types of conditions, nor has he been shown to be incapable of making the technical adjustments necessary to move beyond the one or two season wonder that he will probably be remembered as!

[Vic Nicholas]

A few obvious differences though - Robson has not as yet been routinely exposed by all types of bowlers in all types of conditions, nor has he been shown to be incapable of making the technical adjustments necessary to move beyond the one or two season wonder that he will probably be remembered as!

Who is the one or two season wonder?

Hughes - who has been playing FC class cricket with excellent results since he was 18 years old?

Or Robson who is basically the same age (less than a year difference) and has accomplished 3/5ths of FA?

No offense, but I want to see a hell of lot more from Robson who has basically only ever had one good summer before I will declare him the second coming.

[Manormanic]

At international level, Hughes is a one season wonder who has become an embarrassing joke.

No, Robson is not necessarily the best replacement, but he is one the Australian selectors should look at, if he is interested in playing that is.

[Vic Nicholas]

At international level, Hughes is a one season wonder who has become an embarrassing joke.

No, Robson is not necessarily the best replacement, but he is one the Australian selectors should look at, if he is interested in playing that is.

Hughes made two scores in the mid 80's in consecutive tests only a few months ago.

Hughes also made a good 69 when he was wrongly given out in India (with DRS he would have been fine).

Can you tell me what your last few test scores are?

Hmmm, a keyboard warrior, eh?

How about posting your last 10 club scores - I reckon Hughes has you covered there as well.

Actually, talking about DRS, if it was in place in the 2009 Ashes, Hughes would not have been given out for 16 in his last test innings on English soil when Strauss caught the ball after it bounced 6 inches in front of him at slip off Anderson.

The English bowlers apparently had Hughes "worked out" in that series.

In Hughes three innings on that tour he made 36 at Sophia Gardens before he got a brute of a ball from Flintoff that would have tested any batsman out let alone Hughes.

He then was out for 4 at Lords strangled down the legside (how does a bowler plan for taking a wicket that way?)

Finally he was cheated out in the second innings for 16 when Strauss claimed a catch that bounced in front of him.

There is no correlation between the three dismissals - so I am not sure what "worked out" was?

Tell me, was the plan to bowl a leg cutter at his body to get him to edge to first slip?

Bowl at his hip to get him to glance one fine down the leg side to the keeper?

Or was it to edge one low to second slip which bounces before it is caught?

So tell me, what was the plan again?

In the 2010/11 it was a different set of circumstances, Hughes had been out of the test team for 18 months pretty much and was in horrendous FC form that summer, averaging 16 and in the process of losing his place (briefly) in the NSW team. Against all logic, he was selected to open in the last three tests when Katich was ruled out injured. He was set up to fail by the Oz selectors - not purposely, but through their stupidity.

Of course your heroes, Bairstow who averages 25.62 at test level and Joe Root who averages 30.16 at test level are SUPERSTARS eh?

But Hughes who averages higher is an embarrassing joke?

You are too funny!

[400notout]

I do like a good arguement! Hughes is far better than people give him credit for.

[Vic Nicholas]

I do like a good arguement! Hughes is far better than people give him credit for.

He certainly has his technical frailties, no question, but anyone who has made centuries and half centuries at test level cannot be sneezed at...let alone called an "embarrassment".

You can throw in most of Australia's top order at the moment, because with the exception of Clarke, none of the rest are performing. Watson has averaged mid 20s over the last two years, Cowan averages around 30, Warner in the low 40's...it doesn't inspire much confidence.

But...I would kill to play test cricket like these guys. If I could play even a 1/4 as good as any of the guys mentioned in my last two posts, I would be the happiest geezer going. Because they are ALL better tan any of us on here will ever be.

For that alone, they are worthy of respect.

[petehosk]

Vic - we are not comparing them with people on here! Why would you do that!!!
I think people are comparing them to other International batsmen?

[Alvaro]

I think Vic has it pretty much spot on there. It's easy to bag Hughes. The caught Guptill bowled Martin was an interesting case study though.

I worry about the Ashes, particularly in line with what Buzz said about the top order creating pressure for the dashers.

 

[Manormanic]

Hughes made two scores in the mid 80's in consecutive tests only a few months ago.

How about posting your last 10 club scores - I reckon Hughes has you covered there as well.

I deleted the rest of your piffle.  And checked - on last ten knocks I beat Mr Hughes by nearly a hundred fifty total, though at a rather lower level (well, some of those Sri Lankan seamers were pretty woeful so maybe not THAT much lower....).

But anyway, lets look at a few of the things you neglected to mention in pathetically posturing bullet point form:

I doubt anyone on here has ever gone ona run of "form" at our chosen level like Phillip-dear did in India. What was it, 5 dismissals in 32 balls for 4 runs or something?

I doubt anyone on here has had to have a (suposedly) lesser player cover for them against good opposition lest they fail and it affect their confidence.

The fact is, once that initial three test burst of form against South Africa passed, Hughes has managed a few cheap runs against one of the worst Test attacks in living memory....and not much else.  He can't play the short ball, the ball close to his body, the inswinger or any form of spin - I actually admire his tenacity for continuing to try (or at least, I would until I think about the pathetic conversations he must have had before the South Africa series).

[alexhilly1492]

I think you guys are missing one key factor, neither Hughes nor Robson are good enough for test cricket, there must be better players whether they be in aus or england and an aussie.

in my personal opinion i honestly think chris rodgers would be the perfect guy to bat at 3 to bring in some experiance (not much test having only played one) as he has hit 19000 fc runs!!

[Manormanic]

in my personal opinion i honestly think chris rodgers would be the perfect guy to bat at 3 to bring in some experiance (not much test having only played one) as he has hit 19000 fc runs!!

In the short term, Australia could do much worse I agree - a side of Rogers, Warner, +1, Clarke, D Hussey, a bowling Watson, Wade, O'Keefe, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson has some stability to it (the =1 is tricky - Cowan Khawaja or Burns?)

[ProCricketer1982]

Why did khawaja get dropped? He looked quite good.

[petehosk]

I've always rated khawaja, even if he has got a name I always forget how to spell! 

[alexhilly1492]

In the short term, Australia could do much worse I agree - a side of Rogers, Warner, +1, Clarke, D Hussey, a bowling Watson, Wade, O'Keefe, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson has some stability to it (the =1 is tricky - Cowan Khawaja or Burns?)

yeah definately short term however having him round the squad would bring on the attitude clarke wants

khawaja is definately one for the future just needs a run in the side

[Manormanic]

khawaja is definately one for the future just needs a run in the side

He does - though I am not entirely convinced that he will make it, he may equally be one of those players who uses international cricket to work out his game that little bit extra.