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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2013, 08:42:18 AM »

Sledging at my level is ridiculous, and makes you look like a total nobber. None of my guys can back up the words with the requisite level of talent, so why do it - unless of course the recipient has blatantly cheated.

Sledging me personally is utterly pointless, if you need to sledge me to get my wicket then something has gone terribly wrong. I laugh uproariously at sledgers and tell them to concentrate on their catching, as they wouldn't want to drop me!
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2013, 08:53:50 AM »

When ever i get a bit of banter head my way i usually let my bat do the talking. 

In some rare cases if its somebody i know,  If i bat first and get no runs i wont say anything back in the second innings, but if i score a decent amount its game on.   

Infact i have a t20 game on the 9th june against a guy from my rugby club who i despise, it even got the the point of forehead to forehead confrontation on the pitch at half time!  So im planning to do a bit of silent sledging with some form of bodyline bowling (hes quite short so a good lenght would be a rib shot)
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2013, 05:45:55 PM »

The 'banter' ruined my experience of playing first team cricket for my school. I couldnt buy a run for 3 years. I put part of it down to sledging. Too be honest I dreaded going into bat. I dont know if it is a private school thing but it seems sledging was almost encouraged at these schools.
I gave up cricket for a year after school but for the past 4 years i have been loving playing village cricket.
Why is sledging accepted? I wouldnt put up with abuse or personal comments in the pub on a saturday night, so why put up with it on the cricket field
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2013, 06:00:53 PM »

Why is sledging accepted? I wouldnt put up with abuse or personal comments in the pub on a saturday night, so why put up with it on the cricket field

That to me is the main part. If you are a mate then banter is fine, when you are some random guy who I don't know or doesn't know me why is it acceptable to abuse me?

Spot on Forrester.

I'm still waiting for someone to use the football line that gets trawled out of 'it's a man's game' :)   If it is a mans game then beat me using skill, not verbal abuse.
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 08:34:06 PM »

I think sledge is ok,

Clearly not if your all just turning up for a game at a low level, thats pointless and not needed.

There is banter, which is fun, then there is sledging. Banter is not sledging

If Fattus turns up at the crease, and I said, "Don't worry, Fattus we've got every one to park their cars on the offside this week, there windows are safe" - , then that's banter.

If I say that the bowler is going to knock your  Fu@~k teeth out, and why the f@ck are you batting at 6?, then thats sledging.

Sledging is fine, if like everything else it don't right. Like others have said, don't do it if you're rubbish, don't do it if every ones just turning up for a game and a fun day. don't do it if the guy your sledging is on 200, or a legend, or whatever... Don't make it personal, or out of line.

But if you think you can say something to upset a batsman or bowler then its fair game.

Saying that you dont like it and there for it should not be part of the game is a none augment. I not like left armers - ban them!  :D :D

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You're all (No Swearing Please) at posting on the internet  :D :D :D :D :D
 
 

 
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 08:37:15 PM »

Also never forget this:

Anderson v Johnson: top sledging


Yak, Yak!!!
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 08:53:23 PM »

I personally dont like banter, but I like sledging, and I consider them to be different things.

Banter to me is having alaugh with your teammates and also the opposition, just for a laugh and bit of fun in a friendly manner.

Sledging is more abuse in my book
I use sledging to get into the batsmens head, plant doubts in their mind, pick at their technique or kit, or poor shots, in an attempt to put them off and get their wicket.

I draw the line at real personal abuse, I've experienced it myself and its not good, but I have given it myself in certain circumstances and stoked the fire a few times
Just little comments aimed at the batter can make a big difference I think, and encourage them to throw their wicket away.

I readily use it when fielding in slips and close in, making a habit of getting up close to the batter in between balls and indirectly telling them I think they are poo
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 08:55:50 PM »

There's a possible fine line between banter and sledging I believe, but usually sledging is just downright trying to verbally abuse batsman. Banter could be something like "watch out mate, don't hit that window," or "careful of that car". Whereas sledging is just purposley harsh to try and gain wickets.
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 09:00:08 PM »

The question is how many times can you back up your sledging ?. If I could pitch the ball exactly where I wanted or what I wanted all the time , I wouldn't be playing club cricket .
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2013, 09:02:03 PM »

I personally dont like banter, but I like sledging, and I consider them to be different things.

Banter to me is having alaugh with your teammates and also the opposition, just for a laugh and bit of fun in a friendly manner.

Sledging is more abuse in my book
I use sledging to get into the batsmens head, plant doubts in their mind, pick at their technique or kit, or poor shots, in an attempt to put them off and get their wicket.

I draw the line at real personal abuse, I've experienced it myself and its not good, but I have given it myself in certain circumstances and stoked the fire a few times
Just little comments aimed at the batter can make a big difference I think, and encourage them to throw their wicket away.

I readily use it when fielding in slips and close in, making a habit of getting up close to the batter in between balls and indirectly telling them I think they are poo

you would not induce any rash shots from me. You'd actually annoy me to make me more determined to stay in etc. However, I'd also counter that people are paying their hard earned money to play a game for the enjoyment (plus kit and fuel costs) to then get abused by you. Perfectly acceptable if you are a pro (proper pro, not low level pro) but when people are paying to play cricket I think people need to respect them more than giving them crap. Just focus on your own game and leave them to do theirs.
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2013, 09:13:07 PM »

Dave I do see what you're saying but I don't agree.

I don't mind someone sledging me, if I do well its just another thing that I have over come, another skill to master etc.

Different views I guess
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 09:15:43 PM »

The question is how many times can you back up your sledging ?. If I could pitch the ball exactly where I wanted or what I wanted all the time , I wouldn't be playing club cricket .


But you don't need to be able to do this, to justify sledging. It about disrupting the other guy.
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 09:16:27 PM »

I think you have to pick your battles. If someone on the oppo sledges us, I find it fair that we give a little back. Or if it's a friend of the club, but then it's banter. I've been called some horrific things during batting and refuse to go down that road.

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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2013, 09:17:25 PM »

To be honest, I cant picture myself on the field taking the time to stop and think, well we really need a couple of wickets here, but I better not try talk this batter out and sledge him, because he has paid his match fee's. I really dont care, it's competitive cricket at the end of the day, I'm sure there is some friendly cricket he could go play somewhere else if he didn't like listening to me, but I would never change the way I play the game, I want to win.

Why is it acceptable if you're a pro????

In our league there is plenty of rubbish spoke out on the field, but it's left there and everyone enjoys a good beer afterwards.

I wouldnt mind annoying you to stay in, taking that selfish approach is probably better for my side, bat all day if you like.
But you've just said you'd be determined to stay in, and not let us induce you into a poor shot, so straight away I'm in your head, you're now concentrating on sticking around, less so on scoring runs now and your natural game, but more to stay in, so I'm winning because you're thinking about me and I am in your head
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Re: Confrontation and sledging overrated at club level cricket
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2013, 09:26:46 PM »

To be honest, I cant picture myself on the field taking the time to stop and think, well we really need a couple of wickets here, but I better not try talk this batter out and sledge him, because he has paid his match fee's. I really dont care, it's competitive cricket at the end of the day, I'm sure there is some friendly cricket he could go play somewhere else if he didn't like listening to me, but I would never change the way I play the game, I want to win.

Why is it acceptable if you're a pro????

In our league there is plenty of rubbish spoke out on the field, but it's left there and everyone enjoys a good beer afterwards.

I wouldnt mind annoying you to stay in, taking that selfish approach is probably better for my side, bat all day if you like

so competitive cricket is only for people who are prepared to put up with verbal attacks on them? It's no wonder there are less adults playing the sport. If you need a couple of wickets try bowling/fielding better??
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